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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post

    I get that they're Indian, so you can market them, but if you're saying that's the sole basis then maybe india isn't ready to have foreign players playing in the IBL. If the badminton public haven't heard of LCW and LD, then maybe the level of promotion hasn't been big enough yet to warrant these players.

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    Did not get what you meant by India isn't ready to have foreign players playing in the IBL....

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    Ibl will definitely make badminton popular in india. I am sure people will start to know LD, LCW, WYH etc if they play here.

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    Like anything new, there will be quirks and decisions that won't appeal to all. I'm just excited that this is one step towards Badminton becoming more popular on the world stage.

    In order for this to happen, other countries need to start doing well in international competition. Saina has successfully done this for India - congratulations!

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    I think this is a very interesting development. One observation I have had about IPL (on which IBL is based) is it is less about cricketing genius and more about a spectacle. IPL creators went after the movie market - offering cricket in a 3 hour package, which is about the length of an average indian movie. They put the times of the games the same, put cheer leaders and DJs in stadium, put out good food. So people came in for a good time, the game was an added attraction.
    For IBL to be successful, it has to follow the same model. In which case, it is not as much about winning or losing, as it is about giving entertainment. If you remember the movie Gladiator, the hero slays everyone quickly and asks the crowd, 'Are you not entertained?'. And they werent.
    In this way, IBL is different (possibly) from CBSL. i dont know much about CBSL, but it sounds like it is less about the money and more about playing against very good players without influencing your ranking points.
    JustinL - your point about LCW and LD being much better players is absolutely valid. But, more popular is not always the same as best player. Jwala Gutta, due to scandals and associations with married players was much more popular than Saina. Then Saina won some major tournaments and become more popular. So, people who watch IBL are there to have a good time, and they want to watch famous and infamous players. Taufik is a legend in India. LCW is popular as well. A lot of people know about Peter Gade. As an example (and a parallel to IPL), Andrew Symonds commanded a high price even though he was not the best player - because he was infamous due to a controversy with Indian players.
    The main thing IBL will achieve is making badminton more popular in India. It will provide a venue for less famous players in India get some financial support. It will get more pople playing it seriously.
    It wont necessarily improve the quality of badminton in India (there are many tournaments including India SS already).
    It would be a loss if China decides not to field it's players. Those are some of the most keenly contested matches.

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    Excellent post by abans! I think it very succinctly sums up the ground realities and the approaches taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion1 View Post
    Lindan may be big in your country. India dont need to promote badminton using lindan's name. Will you promote badminton using saina's name in your country?....Even if we want to promote, we can go for Lee chong wei, who is well known to everybody. Have you seen the last two editions of Indian Open . The way people chanting his name is the proof. But the way you said that the two doubles players not worth more than 5k is ridiculous. BAI has decided to give that base value to indian players. We are not talking about chinese premier league, where china will concentrate on their own players not foreigners(they never call them to play), its indian premier league. For CBSL, china did not even call saina to participate. But BAI has decided to call chinese players . That itself is a great thing.
    But Its too odd to talk about a person's worth . You did not even get the basic meaning of IBL. Its similar to IPL for cricket. Just go ahead and read all those related topics and then come and do your imaginary comparisons and values.. Lol
    Actually, Saina is used more to promote badminton here than any other female player, so that logic isn't really valid at all here. And if you've already said that LCW isn't known, how can you use him?

    My valuation isn't ridiculous, it was based on solid reasoning based on tournament results (factually sound information)

    China do call in foreigners to play, for all you know Saina could have been asked to play already.

    And for your information I understand IPL as I follow it (Mumbai Indians are the team I support cause of Lasith Malinga) so I understand fully how it works

    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    Did not get what you meant by India isn't ready to have foreign players playing in the IBL....
    Well if no one knows the world and Olympic champions, then what's the point in having them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
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    Well if no one knows the world and Olympic champions, then what's the point in having them?
    So that they bring a level of vitality and a truly international colour to proceedings; and to help push the game to new frontiers. If you've been following the IPL, then you know how idol-crazy the Indian population can get; that translates into big spending; it also translates into greater exposure for the game and a whole new following.

    The higher the level of play, the more exciting the better the chances of eventual success of the league. In fact, I'd encourage tantrums, prima-donna-isms, eyeball-to-eyeball confrontations and more! As abans so rightly pointed out, these leagues are all about entertainment and conversion. The more the excitement, the better...

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    So far, no Indonesian players have been approached....but talking to some of International players...it wont be easy to attract them as they are not fancy playing in India....so big money will be the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    So far, no Indonesian players have been approached....but talking to some of International players...it wont be easy to attract them as they are not fancy playing in India....so big money will be the key.
    With no offence to anyone here,I am just stating what happened.....That big money is the thing that brought about all the changes in the cricketing world,It made cricketers say that they will not play for the national team or retire from the game just to play in the league..It made associations to let them play in the league....It completely changed the whole scenario

    As far as International players are concerned there is ample amount of time as the auctioning would be held in March....but before, that the main thing is franchise auctioning...the money which is going to be spent on players is determined from franchise auctioning...If the franchises are bought at out of proportionate costs....then the max purse used for the player auctioning can be expected to be great.

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    If Kevin Peterson, the best player in England cricket team is fighting against England Cricket Board for letting him play in IPL, with the money involved, I'd love to see Lin Dan fight with China Badminton Governing body to let him play in IBL, dumping other major superseries! Scenes like these should be common, if IBL is a success.

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    For Lin Dan to commit to anything,not just getting him motivated, is tricky and fairly difficult. He's made clear now family comes first to him, and he's playing in the CBSL to repay his team Bayi. What's even more telling is, during the recent book-signing event for his autobiography, he's said he is past caring winning or losing titles and more keen on promoting the sport and encouraging others to excel by his example. He has even been approached to appear in TV programs,including soap opera, and movies which he has turned down as he didn't find the roles offered suitable, not to mention the usual business ventures that are in discussion.

    With so many other attractions and distractions pulling him in all directions, I wonder how he is going to re-focus on badminton at the end of his six-month leave. Hopefully he means it when he said,apart from his family, among all the activities, badminton is still his first love. Ya, but how to motivate him again? Money alone won't do, I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    For Lin Dan to commit to anything,not just getting him motivated, is tricky and fairly difficult. He's made clear now family comes first to him, and he's playing in the CBSL to repay his team Bayi. What's even more telling is, during the recent book-signing event for his autobiography, he's said he is past caring winning or losing titles and more keen on promoting the sport and encouraging others to excel by his example. He has even been approached to appear in TV programs,including soap opera, and movies which he has turned down as he didn't find the roles offered suitable, not to mention the usual business ventures that are in discussion.

    With so many other attractions and distractions pulling him in all directions, I wonder how he is going to re-focus on badminton at the end of his six-month leave. Hopefully he means it when he said,apart from his family, among all the activities, badminton is still his first love. Ya, but how to motivate him again? Money alone won't do, I'm afraid.
    I'm 100% sure LD wont show up in IBL as he probably has tons of other commitments.
    If LD lacks motivation then it is better he just retires and become an ambassador. A person with no motivation will just bring negatives to the game (walkovers, half hearted playing, giving up etc etc)

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    Article regarding IPL in pakistan newspaper "PAKISTAN OBSERVER".

    "http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=182912"

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    Already 18 corporates has showed interest in bid. But still 12 to 14 more bids are expected to arrive in another 10-15 days.

    Quite Interesting. .. Even Bollywood actors /producers were asked to take part.

    http://"http://economictimes.indiati.../17484762.cms"

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    In IBL, the eight cities in the race are Delhi, Bombay, Lucknow, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Pune and Nagpur. The organisers claim that IBL, with $1 million in prize money, would be the richest prize-money league in badminton. As many as 66 foreign and Indian players are expected to take part in the league. Auction of IBL players is scheduled for March. The league is approved by the Badminton World Federation and the Badminton Asia Confederation.

    A spokesman for Sporty said the company has held its first round of discussions with "five leading Bollywood producer-actors

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    scorpion1 ,the link you posted is not working,so I am reposting

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    *The proposed Indian Badminton League (IBL) - modelled on cricket's cash-rich, franchise-based Indian Premier League (IPL) - has received 18 expressions of interest from corporates for its franchises so far, said its organiser, adding that they expect 12-14 more initial bids over the next 15 days.

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    Chadha, CEO of Sporty Solutionz, IBL's commercial partner, said eight cities are in the fray and the organisers will finally settle on six franchises that get the best bids. The league will be held from June 24 to July 11, 2013. "The base price (for each franchise) is 20 crore($4 million). An equal amount would be spent on marketing and maintenance cost with incremental proportion.

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    We are expecting Hyderabad to go for at least 50 crore($10 million). This is just the licensing fee. But the amount will go up if you add franchise maintenance and marketing costs,"

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    As of now, the Hyderabad franchise has attracted the maximum number of bids followed by Bangalore and Mumbai. "It is much more than we had expected," he added.

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    In IBL, the eight cities in the race are Delhi, Bombay, Lucknow, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Pune and Nagpur.

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    Sporty Solutionz has bought the rights to organise IBL for seven years. As opposed to IPL, which is run byBCCI which hires vendors such as IMG to do the job, in IBL, Sporty has paid the Badminton Association of India for rights to run the show. "It is a multi-crore contract," Chadha said but didn't disclose financial details.(wow I didn't know this,I thought BAI is the one running it.May be BAI does not want to take risk).

    Bollywood mix

    A spokesman for Sporty said the company has held its first round of discussions with "five leading Bollywood producer-actors" who may either pick up franchises or sponsor the league.
    (I don't think IBL can become popular without bollywood,may be SHAH RUKH KHAN)

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    Interestingly, badminton is becoming popular in India with Indian players such as Nehwal doing well in the game, upsetting Chinese hegemony. The game has been adjudged by ESPN as the favourite game for Indians 'to play and watch'.

    *While in the past, Indian players used to travel to Malaysia and Indonesia to train, many East Asian players are now keen to train in Hyderabad and other Indian cities. The turf war between badminton racket sellers such as Yonex and new entrants such as Li Ning Co (owned by Chinese icon and gymnast Li Ning) for market share in India have also contributed to East Asian interest in the game in India. Many of the sponsors are those of the IPL as well, said Chadha.

    *Sporty said as in IPL, franchises have to pay a fee to IBL, player fees and bear marketing and maintenance costs of the team. "Franchises are expected to pledge at least 100 crore over five years," Chadha said. He didn't reveal more financial details. Unlike in IPL, IBL franchises can name their teams after companies and can sell the title.

    *"We will offer franchises 50% of our media rights value, 50% of sponsorships value ... all that will be equally divided among six franchises," Chadha said. He hopes IBL to take off in a big way in India. "After all, it is something that isn't a cheap Chinese export," he said.

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    Indian Badminton League receives overwhelming response from India Inc

    "http://sports.ndtv.com/othersports/badminton/item/200525-indian-badminton-league-receives-overwhelming-response-from-india-inc"

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    Sporty Solutionz CEO Ashish Chadha said, "We are thrilled with the brilliant response from India Inc and I would like to thank each one of them for supporting badminton. We are confident that the IBL will usher in a successful business model for the sport and take it to greater heights."

    IBL governing council member Pullela Gopichand said, "The IBL heralds a new era in Indian badminton. It will provide a great opportunity for our players to play along with the best players of the world and learn from them."

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    Indian Badminton League receives 29 bids for teams

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...on-league-bids

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    The inaugural Indian Badminton League (IBL), scheduled to be held in the month of June, has attracted immense interest not only from among corporates but also top cricketers. TOI has learnt that six city-based teams in the league have attracted 29 bids, with the Sahara Group, PVP Ventures, Ness Wadia and one star Indian cricketer having bought four of these teams.
    Sahara has bought Lucknow while Ness Wadia's bid for the Mumbai team has been "almost finalized".


    PVP Ventures, which made a valiant bid to buy the Deccan Chargers IPL team, has made a successful bid for the Hyderabad franchise. "Our rules are clear. We are not opting for the highest bidder, rather we are looking at the best bidder.


    "In the interest of the sport we are looking at the franchise on the basis of their connectivity to cities. For example, PVP Ventures is a big name in the South Indian film industry. The franchise will ensure the presence of several top actors to lend glamour to the event," sources said.

    Though the six cities -- Hyderabad, Mumbai, Lucknow, Pune, Delhi and Bangalore -- have been finalized, the buyers for the Delhi-based franchise has not yet been finalized and the final list of owners and teams will be revealed within a week.


    The world's top players have confirmed their participation in the league. "Several prominent international badminton personalities are also involved. Given the huge amount to be earned for participation, almost all top players are keen on competing," sources said.


    Each team will have 12 players with a cap on four foreigners. The base price for the top five ranked players is $50,000 and for the next set is $25,000.


    Interestingly, popular TV networks have also bid for the rights. "We have received bids from ESPN-Star, Ten Sports and Sony Television networks. Within the next two weeks we will finalize the bids. After completion of modalities we will conduct a player auction. We will ensure that two top players will be there in all the teams," the source said.

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