Carbonex 21 special

**vijaykumar** · 04-05-2010, 04:35 AM

I am planning to buy carbonex 21 special.
Can some one please tell me pros and cons specific to this racket.
Currently i am using the basic yonex racket B-700 DF.
I generally play doubles , defensive, not very good at smash, good at overhead and drops.

Any suggestion would be highly appreciated

**Charlie Liu** · 04-05-2010, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by vijaykumar

I am planning to buy carbonex 21 special.
Can some one please tell me pros and cons specific to this racket.
Currently i am using the basic yonex racket B-700 DF.
I generally play doubles , defensive, not very good at smash, good at overhead and drops.

Any suggestion would be highly appreciated

I got this racquet strung with BG66, tension 23lb at a good price (SGD90). It is definitely a few classes above the B-700F.

Initially do not like it (may be the tension is too low, but the spec is up to 25lb only), but the more I use it, the better I feel it is.

Pros: Solid, cheapest made in Japan Carbonex. Reasonably light. Stiff (powerful).

It is oval, so:
Cons: Very small sweet spot.
Pro: Very powerful if you hit at the sweet spot.

There is an senior player in my group uses this rackquet too. His control is superb.

Carbonex 21 SP is better but more expensive.

**vijaykumar** · 04-05-2010, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Liu

I got this racquet strung with BG66, tension 23lb at a good price (SGD90). It is definitely a few classes above the B-700F.

Initially do not like it (may be the tension is too low, but the spec is up to 25lb only), but the more I use it, the better I feel it is.

Pros: Solid, cheapest made in Japan Carbonex. Reasonably light. Stiff (powerful).

It is oval, so:
Cons: Very small sweet spot.
Pro: Very powerful if you hit at the sweet spot.

There is an senior player in my group uses this rackquet too. His control is superb.

Carbonex 21 SP is better but more expensive.

thanks fr d guidance
is the racket very fragile??
i m gettng d racket fr $58 US.

**Charlie Liu** · 04-05-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by vijaykumar

thanks fr d guidance
is the racket very fragile??
i m gettng d racket fr $58 US.

I am not a heavy user, but the durability is acceptable to me. You can refer to the Equipment Review Thread
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/revi.../cat/47/page/1
where you can find lots of information. I quote from one posting:

Just in response to the comments about the fragility of the Cab 21. I have two, roughly 2 year old Cab 21 Specials, and never had a problem with breaking them. Admittedly I only string my racquets at 21 lbs and don't hit that hard, but I definately found my ISO 900 SA much more fragile. 

You can refer to other reviews in the same thread, just note that Carbonex 21, 21 Special and 21 SP are 3 different racquets, and my comment is on the 21 Special.

**vijaykumar** · 04-05-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Liu

I am not a heavy user, but the durability is acceptable to me. You can refer to the Equipment Review Thread
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/revi.../cat/47/page/1
where you can find lots of information. I quote from one posting:

Just in response to the comments about the fragility of the Cab 21. I have two, roughly 2 year old Cab 21 Specials, and never had a problem with breaking them. Admittedly I only string my racquets at 21 lbs and don't hit that hard, but I definately found my ISO 900 SA much more fragile. 

You can refer to other reviews in the same thread, just note that Carbonex 21, 21 Special and 21 SP are 3 different racquets, and my comment is on the 21 Special.

thanks man
i had previously gone throught the thread u mentioned here
the review were more centrally fr carbonx 21
anyways
i got a fair idea and would mostly buy it

**santaram** · 04-07-2010, 12:50 AM

This is one of a classic racket made by yonex.
I Have been using cab21 spl for the past 10 years.
I have broken 4to 5 rackets but i still like the racket, even after using almost all the top yonex rackets.
A truly a great racket, It is a all-round racket.
You regret buying this racket.

**vijaykumar** · 04-07-2010, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by santaram

This is one of a classic racket made by yonex.
I Have been using cab21 spl for the past 10 years.
I have broken 4to 5 rackets but i still like the racket, even after using almost all the top yonex rackets.
A truly a great racket, It is a all-round racket.
You regret buying this racket.

thanks man fr d reply
did u mean to say i wont regret buying this racket??
hey can u tell me d reasons how was the racket broken??
is it sturdy enuff to withstand the minor racket clash while playing doubles??
and fr how much did u buy in INR.

**ck1981** · 04-07-2010, 02:04 AM

The original Carbonex 21 SP has already ceased production. The current one is different from the original in terms of look (the original shaft is very slim whereas the current one is a bit thick). The specs and feel I don't know.
I still keep the original Carbonex 21 SP though. Have been using it since year 2001 but it has been downgraded to my backup racquet because I find that Victor Super Wave 33 Control or Prince Oversive Dive is more suitable for me.

**vijaykumar** · 04-07-2010, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by ck1981

The original Carbonex 21 SP has already ceased production. The current one is different from the original in terms of look (the original shaft is very slim whereas the current one is a bit thick). The specs and feel I don't know.
I still keep the original Carbonex 21 SP though. Have been using it since year 2001 but it has been downgraded to my backup racquet because I find that Victor Super Wave 33 Control or Prince Oversive Dive is more suitable for me.

thnxs for the reply man
bt i guess carbonex 21, carbonex 21 SP and carbonex 21 special are 3 different rackets
and rght now the place were i live only carbonex 21 special is availble
it wld be better if u can give me specific info abt carbonex 21 special only

**findecano1** · 04-07-2010, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Liu

Pros: Solid, cheapest made in Japan Carbonex.

CAB 21 Special is made in Taiwan developed by Yonex Japan.

The most noticeable difference compared to CAB 21 and CAB 21 SP is the shaft. The Special have a thicker and slightly softer shaft compared to the other 2.

**Charlie Liu** · 04-07-2010, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by findecano1

CAB 21 Special is made in Taiwan developed by Yonex Japan.

The most noticeable difference compared to CAB 21 and CAB 21 SP is the shaft. The Special have a thicker and slightly softer shaft compared to the other 2.

It is painted on my Cab 21 Special "Made In Japan", so are the others I found in shops in Singapore.

**vijaykumar** · 04-07-2010, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Liu

It is painted on my Cab 21 Special "Made In Japan", so are the others I found in shops in Singapore.

CAB 21 special available here at india is made in japan with back and goldn butt

**findecano1** · 04-07-2010, 04:22 AM

That's quite a surprise on that, no meaning to discredit. Perhaps the newer CAB 21 Special are made in Japan compared to the ones I saw long time ago? (can't find any of these anywhere here now in Malaysia or rather I don't really look at rackets nowadays).

The CAB 21 SP is still in production with a different color scheme. Black with hints of gold and red but mainly available in 3U. Bought one last year but sold it off as its a little light. Still prefer the older color scheme in 2U.

**vijaykumar** · 04-07-2010, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by findecano1

That's quite a surprise on that, no meaning to discredit. Perhaps the newer CAB 21 Special are made in Japan compared to the ones I saw long time ago? (can't find any of these anywhere here now in Malaysia or rather I don't really look at rackets nowadays).

The CAB 21 SP is still in production with a different color scheme. Black with hints of gold and red but mainly available in 3U. Bought one last year but sold it off as its a little light. Still prefer the older color scheme in 2U.

I am not able to find the CAB 21 SP here at stores in mumbai.
asked the store keeper abt cab 21 and cab 21 sp. he said that cab 21 is discontinued and cab 21 SP is vaiable only in south pacific region and only available one is cab 21 special.
and i m very keen at buying it but the only issue is its durablity
as i play doubles so sometimes the racket so happen to clash (minor clash) to wld dat fracture the racket.
dats the only concern
rest i thnk it would suit by game play very well

**-Berg** · 04-07-2010, 05:27 AM

Dont worry my friend

No matter it is 21, 21 special, or 21 sp, all of em carry the great name and legacy of Carbonex. And I can assure you that Carbonex racket ranging from 20 to 35 are tough and durable. The main drawback of Carbonex is it can't bear ultra high tension. cab20 to cab 25 should be able to withstand 27-28 lbs while still maitaining their durability from clashes. Cab30 too is able to withstand 29-30, still maintaining its durability from pretty heave clashes. As for Cab35 i dont have experience with that model. But my prediction is cab35 can withstand 30-32 which is the highest tension strungable racket from Carbonex series along with Cab30

**vijaykumar** · 04-07-2010, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by -Berg

Dont worry my friend

No matter it is 21, 21 special, or 21 sp, all of em carry the great name and legacy of Carbonex. And I can assure you that Carbonex racket ranging from 20 to 35 are tough and durable. The main drawback of Carbonex is it can't bear ultra high tension. cab20 to cab 25 should be able to withstand 27-28 lbs while still maitaining their durability from clashes. Cab30 too is able to withstand 29-30, still maintaining its durability from pretty heave clashes. As for Cab35 i dont have experience with that model. But my prediction is cab35 can withstand 30-32 which is the highest tension strungable racket from Carbonex series along with Cab30

Thanxs man
i would dan buy the cab 21 spl and might stiring wth BG 65 and at 23 lbs

**vijaykumar** · 04-07-2010, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by -Berg

Dont worry my friend

No matter it is 21, 21 special, or 21 sp, all of em carry the great name and legacy of Carbonex. And I can assure you that Carbonex racket ranging from 20 to 35 are tough and durable. The main drawback of Carbonex is it can't bear ultra high tension. cab20 to cab 25 should be able to withstand 27-28 lbs while still maitaining their durability from clashes. Cab30 too is able to withstand 29-30, still maintaining its durability from pretty heave clashes. As for Cab35 i dont have experience with that model. But my prediction is cab35 can withstand 30-32 which is the highest tension strungable racket from Carbonex series along with Cab30

Thanxs man
i would dan buy the cab 21 spl and might string wth BG 65 and at 23 lbs