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04-11-2013, 09:14 AM #120
I find him to be one of the most promising and exciting doubles players right now, though, and I agree that he's got time to improve.
KSH is gonna be 26 this May, LYD 25 this September, Kim Sa Rang 24 and Ki Jung 23 in August.
Did anyone know Ki Jung has a twin brother he used to play with? He seems to have stopped playing internationally 2009, though.
04-13-2013, 05:05 AM #121
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04-13-2013, 06:37 AM #122
I wouldn't say he's slow though Perhaps you've been watching the Kims?
04-13-2013, 06:38 AM #123
As seen with Fu Haifeng and his wimpy arms...he's basically skin and bones!
Thing with Ko is that he has the legs to move it all around. Comparatively, they're much more muscular than his upper body, and he has shown that he has incredible speed around the court.
Jung wasn't exactly elf-like, either....often had to think of Gimli when he walked on court
The only really good smasher that's not more muscular than his partner is Tan Boon Heong, and with him you often see how he gets tired halfway into the match. I'm no expert, so I won't state that it's surely his lack of muscle in comparison to the other hard-hitters, but it makes you wonder sometimes
Kim Sa Rang faces the same problem. Others like Shin/Yoo were excluded as I don't see them as exceptional smashers in World Elite terms.
04-17-2013, 08:19 AM #124
Anyway, it's the Asian Badminton Champs! Anyone lucky enough to be watching it LIVE in Taipei?
04-17-2013, 12:09 PM #125
You'll be hard pressed to find someone who's his equal just in smashing...Fu is superior, but apart from him, only a few can smash as hard and consistently as he can (Tan can actually smash harder, but can't keep that pace up for very long).
I don't think his training is designed to make him that big, it's most likely just a byproduct - strength training and lucky genes, I guess...given they get into their favored position, it's good to have that strength and endurance. The problem for this pairing is that currently, they don't get into that formation often enough (or get countered out of it).
With how tall he is, I don't really see how he could increase his agility very much - he has a higher center of gravity than Jung or even Fu, so he'll always be just a tad slower to change directions. This pair just have to find their own style of play, Lee has to learn how to play to Ko's strengths as well and can't just continue to play the same as he did with Jung.
Anyhow, here's hoping that they perform well in the BAC (and of course later tournaments)....Ko is one of my favorite players on tour.
04-17-2013, 12:18 PM #126
04-17-2013, 09:08 PM #127
Having massive muscles weigh you down and stiffens movement. Flexibility and speed is highly valued in badminton.
And because Lee Yong Dae is lightning quick, he is great at the net and because he is flexible, it helps with his defense and racket maneuverability around the body.
04-17-2013, 11:31 PM #128
I'm just noting on casual observation that most of the top men players with both speed and power are around 5ft 10in and 150lbs or so, with a lanky normal physique. Like LYD, TBH, LCW, LD, CY, Setiawan, Gunawan. Of course there are occasional outliers like JJS, Kido.
Even FHF is not that muscular, if you ignore his monster of a left arm.
As icey-drone and lilmizsara mentioned, Ko's excessive muscles appear to be a detriment to him as he seems slower and not as fluid covering the court as others. And I don't find his smashes to be particularly devastating (even LYD can smash just as hard now that he's gained some muscles), given that he can probably lift and bench more than the others.
I recall seeing a photo of him on Victor website flexing his back muscles doing weights but can't find it now that they've updated the website.
Anyway, not putting him down or anything, just an observation, since I don't think there's any other player singles or doubles who is more muscular than him... and this includes LD and LCW.
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04-18-2013, 12:00 AM #129
And no, we aren't 'hard-pressed' in finding someone equal to his smashing. Just going for power, I do see other players rivalling that. FHF for instance. But I wasn't really referring to power, I'm referring to skill/technique. There are tons of players who aren't hard smashers but they have the technique. Many. Hong Wei, TBH and Carsten Mogensen are some I can think of, there are many others with good placement yet not as powerful. It does not matter cause their smashes are mostly effective. I agree with Visor that Ko's smashes aren't particularly devastating as I see opponents being able to defend almost all of his smashes. also, smashing is all but one part of the game. No point being able to thunder down hard smashes but yet not be able to be consistent and make at least 10 different unforced errors during the match - as one poster mentioned a few pages before. and I also don't attribute Ko's sometimes slow movement to his height. come on, he's not 2 metres tall right? He's about the same height as LYD and I was actually surprised to see Chai Biao/Hong Wei to be so incredibly tall (they were towering over the Koreans in the SwissOpen medal ceremony photos ) yet they are agile. BoeMo are tall but I don't find them slow, at least not Mo.
I'm not putting him down as well, just stating my observations cause I think he's the only super muscular guy I see on the circuit!
04-18-2013, 12:35 AM #130
Couldn't find any shirtless pics of Ko, but this video is the closest, where they change shirts at the break at 6:38. Kinda blocked by the ump chair, but from the sounds of the spectators, it must've been a sight...
04-18-2013, 01:40 AM #131
Haha if you like the Victor picture of him carrying those weights, I have it somewhere - can send it to you
Also, if you wanna see like a better version of him shirtless.. LOL. check out the china masters (or china open can't remember which) Final 2011 between Ko/Yoo and BoeMo. Ko/Yoo took off their shirts there and the camera was on Ko for abit when they were throwing their shirts to the crowd.
I bet Gill Clarke bookmarks it and watches that video daily. :P And LOL at the crowd cheering!! hahhahahaha
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04-18-2013, 01:48 AM #132
^^ Don't send it to me... post the photo here! ..... (goes check out the china final video... )
04-18-2013, 06:45 PM #133
How can you fix inconsistency? If only Ko can stop doing simple mistakes (e.g. serving in to the net quite often) then the pair might have a chance winning big titles. Also, his defence is weaker than LYD so every just attacks him for easy points.
04-18-2013, 07:21 PM #134
You have brought up a good point about his serves: they're too rushed. ..... As opposed to some slow servers like Ma Jin and Pedersen (who takes almost 5 secs to serve and sometimes make me wonder if the live stream has stopped ), Ko takes like 0.2 secs to serve and he doesn't even look up to serve. When he first started playing few years ago, this would catch his opponents by surprise and he could get a few easy points, but nowadays his opponents are effectively turning this around and using this against him by putting their hand up to indicate they're not yet ready to receive, leading to a let as Ko still serves pre emptively without looking up to check if the receiver is ready. Ko has to seriously work on and improve this aspect of his serves. It should be quite easy, as serves are the easiest to practice and drill, even without the need of a partner.
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04-18-2013, 07:33 PM #135
I also question Ko's choice of racquet...why not play to his main strength and pick a head heavy racquet
04-18-2013, 07:37 PM #136