Super Series Grand Finale Group Stage (12-14 December 2012)

[Justin L]

HKV doing more of the attacking while Chen Lon is playing cautiously, not a good idea for CL.

[Justin L]

A major upset is brewing with HKV playing like that...

[Justin L]

Chen Long showing signs of frustration.

[Justin L]

The way HKV is playing in this match,he can practically trouble anyone.

[LD rules!]

The way HKV is playing in this match,he can practically trouble anyone.

Look at his results from all England and German open, very close there to LCW and LD

[Justin L]

Finally The Dragon is able to impose his game on HKV, in the process getting a bit of the fright himself.

[Justin L]

Look at his results from all England and German open, very close there to LCW and LD

Oh, I see. But he got to do it more consistently , esp against lesser opponents as well.

[Justin L]

Chen Long is often a slow starter, and in this match he's forced to work his way back point by point until he found his rhythm.

[Justin L]

It often happened, the underdog played excellent against a top player only to lose to a lesser opponent the next round. Still kudos to Vittinghus.

[bad's fan]

not many players is as rich as Lin Dan, rumor has it that he send Bwf a blank cheque right after the Olympics and let them fill in the 00s when he decided to come back.

you're joking, right?

[scorpion1]

not many players is as rich as Lin Dan, rumor has it that he send Bwf a blank cheque right after the Olympics and let them fill in the 00s when he decided to come back.

Are you kidding??? Is that a way to hype his name??? He may be one of the top earners in the badminton arena... But not the topper in earning...

[isben]

OMG.. Nobody will understand if you post a link which is full of your own language.. Just translate it and give us its essence..

The report mention that he injured his ankle again. Same ankle that was injured during Thomas cup. They got the tournament doctor to verify prior to announcing his withdrawal.
Funny thing is I read the badminton magazine from china and in it Lcw said he played throught OG on pain killers. Why does BWF need the player to get injured once more prior to allowing them to withdraw.

I did mention that to escape being fined a player has to compete in at least a match.

Typing on an iPhone so can't paragraph it properly

[Oceanwave]

when on other thread, Justin L posting LYB's complain about BWF schedule being too packed, citing player fatigue. and suggested it's not just affecting chinese players, but an issue for many top players. quite a few people pounced on it, and claiming it's LYB playing some game again to gain favorable condition for CBA team.
Now, at year's end, with SSF, a high prized, ranking point rich tournament. we have 5, possibly 6 withdrawal in first round of group matches. it's not inconceivable to assume that after a year of highly packed schedule and emotional draining OG, fatigue and injuries are catching up to the world's best players.

This from LCW : “ I think the schedule of BWF is too dense, we have to play so many tournaments every year, thus it’s difficult for player to play very well and be at his at his best in every match. In order to avoid punishment, we have to play which may lead to injuries.” “ My condition is different from Lin Dan. I’m much more hard working than him as my pressure is bigger in Malaysia. Now I drafted a plan for myself to play until Asia Games, then I’ll check my status and consider if I will continue and Play until Olympic Gamed held in Rio.”
http://www.badzine.net/news/ss-final...”/22640/

It does sounded like LCW wishes he can pick and choose events to play so that it matches best with his condition. But fans and sponsor pressure made it impossible to do so. Year in year out, he's been playing in almost all SS events and some even lesser tournaments. Somehow he becomes the most hardworking man in the business, the king of SS events without a world title. People expect to see him in every event and perform well, as GC commented in every LCW match "27 SS titles" "the great supporter of SS, comparing to LD ..."
Don't you think playing like this is also diminishing his chance at world title? Playing all year long non-stop and going after every title, don't you think he'd rather aiming for one major title only in a year, and schedule his time accordingly? But, no, he couldn't. the pressure seems from everywhere: the fans, home country, bwf rules ..., everything seems to be against that.

I'm not saying LCW could have won a world title for sure if he focused his schedule in peaking his condition at such event rather than going after every tournament non-stop, but don't you agree his chance would go up by a lot if he could've done so? Only now, near end of his career, with the hope of a world title slowly slipping, he mustered the courage to speak up.

Of course, LYB didn't complain on BWF schedule for the good of the world badminton. He's Chinese national head coach, he's speaking for his players. However, the point still stands, the packed event schedule from BWF plus various national leagues is a factor in player fatigue and injuries. And I believe, if speaking freely, many top player would like a less packed BWF SS schedule, and rid of the monetary penalty.

My point is, current BWF Schedule and SS rules is good for the sports spreading, but not good for its top players, potentially shorten their playing life. And i do not believe cross sports comparison to tennis is valid, different income level, different national system, different stamina usage during a game, different probability of sustain an injury during a match when player are not in top conditions... Simply too many difference to compare an single aspect, schedule between 2 sports.

Don't discount everything coming out of CBA camp. Many issues they raised do have merits. In this case, CBA has done very good job of shielding its players somewhat from schedule issue, and peak them for major events. I think many players from other countries would love such support.

[Oceanwave]

Another point i'm trying to make. be considerate of others, trying to see from other's point of view. For sports such as badminton which are still trying to expand its popularity and finding its format, many things needs input and protection from its global fans. the not so infrequent hostlity displayed in this forum, the biggest english language badminton forum, towards China, really isn't helping those goals much. Yes, China VS ROtW probably is a reality in badminton, but they are you opponents not enemies. I really hope people don't take this wrongly, can u imagine badminton globally without China?
To cap things off, i present you with this song. i think the lyrics somehow describe the relation between fans and star players, between bwf and its players, even between fans from different countries. take what you will. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk_S3BwE_n4

[nokh88]

All MAS entries lost their matches yesterday. Including KKK/TBH

[scorpion1]

The report mention that he injured his ankle again. Same ankle that was injured during Thomas cup. They got the tournament doctor to verify prior to announcing his withdrawal.
Funny thing is I read the badminton magazine from china and in it Lcw said he played throught OG on pain killers. Why does BWF need the player to get injured once more prior to allowing them to withdraw.

I did mention that to escape being fined a player has to compete in at least a match.

Typing on an iPhone so can't paragraph it properly

Thanks isben.. Thanks for translating the article.. I appreciate your work.. Thanks once again...

[liemsweeking]

bros............like to ask.........how come the HKG WD pair (Poon/Tse) play half-hearted like that? are they injured?........