Super Series Grand Finale Group Stage (12-14 December 2012)

**Licin** · 12-13-2012, 02:08 AM

Ouch.. .12-2 now.... Daren Liew is taking his time to rest, i think... hopefully...

**tbgoh288** · 12-13-2012, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

someone continuosly and repeatly said ratchanok played too much badminton this year.and yet she beat the 2nd and the 4th seed here

she is through to semi final!

Agree totally with that someone. Even if she wins this Superseries Finals it is not going to negate the fact that she plays in too many tournaments. Of course she is young and her recovery rate is faster and is less prone to injuries. However that should not be the reason to push her into too many tournaments. We can see that except for beating some established players she had not won any thing big in the tournaments she took part in. At times she looked drained and jaded. May be she needs the money for her family to have a good life. May be the Thai BA sees her as the best hope to bring glory to their country. The way the Thai BA pushes her into one tounament after another she may just burn out before long.

**Licin** · 12-13-2012, 02:17 AM

Lets just hope that Thai BA and Ratcha know what is the best for her. It is indeed very true that pushing Ratcha to take part in so many tournaments detrimental to her physical condition thus increasing chances for injuries. luckily, she is still young and energetic,as a result her recovery rate is faster than elder fellow athletes. However, apart from the monetary problem suspect, in my opinion, their coaches and Ratcha might feel that Ratcha is not performing as best as she usually did during training for example. Therefore, taking part in many tournaments might be beneficial. Ratcha and her coaches have to aware of the borderline. Something too much is dangerous.

**limsy** · 12-13-2012, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by tbgoh288

Agree totally with that someone. Even if she wins this Superseries Finals it is not going to negate the fact that she plays in too many tournaments. Of course she is young and her recovery rate is faster and is less prone to injuries. However that should not be the reason to push her into too many tournaments. We can see that except for beating some established players she had not won any thing big in the tournaments she took part in. At times she looked drained and jaded. May be she needs the money for her family to have a good life. May be the Thai BA sees her as the best hope to bring glory to their country. The way the Thai BA pushes her into one tounament after another she may just burn out before long.

my point is,play too much tournament wasnt an excuse when she didnt perform in the previous tournament.
someone keep saying she lost because played too much badminton.
if she lost,its about tired
if she win,its about young and faster recover rate?

**Justin L** · 12-13-2012, 02:19 AM

Chen Long made his life unnecessarily hard by throwing away G1 when he was 18-10 up at one point , only to lose it 25-23. He has to stay on court longer after taking G2, 21-8.

**julianng** · 12-13-2012, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by julianng

Wah lao ehhh !!!

Daren Liew beat Chen Long !!!!

Originally Posted by Licin

yeah... hopefully Daren Liew could win the match too....

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oh crap... sorry.. i thought he won the match already with that great display to come back and win...

**sen** · 12-13-2012, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by AlanY

After CHN defeated THA 2-1, the situation becomes;

if CHN beat INA, INA out
If INA beat CHN in 2 games, INA in and CHN out.
If INA beat CHN in 3 games with net points
+10 points or less, INA out.
+15 points or more, CHN out.
+12 or 13 points, THA out.
+11 points, CHN in, INA & THA draw lots.
+14 points, INA in, CHN & THA draw lots.

I wish for the last one or 2nd last. I want to see draw lots.

But, quite hard for that to happen. Towi just not in form. Playing in Macau and last week national team championship also will affect Towi and Butet condition. But resting 1 day today may be beneficial.

**KZ** · 12-13-2012, 02:26 AM

daren keeps putting smashes in the net

**Licin** · 12-13-2012, 02:27 AM

Daren down 5-9 against CL at decider... come on Daren....

**Justin L** · 12-13-2012, 02:30 AM

Chen Long's problem is he tends to lose focus too often instead of maintaining his intensity throughout the game.

**KZ** · 12-13-2012, 02:34 AM

daren seems like he's exhausted...can't chase down shots anymore

**Justin L** · 12-13-2012, 02:39 AM

Darren played excellent but only in G1 while Chen Long didn't perform very well these two days, not The Dragon I know.

**zhuangcorp** · 12-13-2012, 02:42 AM

I thought CL played like a master in games 2 and 3. He totally controlled the court, and his smash was very accurate.

**tbgoh288** · 12-13-2012, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

my point is,play too much tournament wasnt an excuse when she didnt perform in the previous tournament.someone keep saying she lost because played too much badminton.if she lost,its about tiredif she win,its about young and faster recover rate?

I normally watch matches only on YouTube after every tournament for the simple reason that I do not have access to live telecast where I am. When a tournament is on going I normally follow it on Live Score and comments here. I am of the opinions that some of the comments here are very balanced and fair including those made by that person. I don't remember that person repeatedly giving the same excuses every time Ranchanok losses or the same reasons every time she wins.May be you may want to refresh my old brain with some quotes from that person's past posts.

**Justin L** · 12-13-2012, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by zhuangcorp

I thought CL played like a master in games 2 and 3. He totally controlled the court, and his smash was very accurate.

I expected more from him. Losing G1 when 18-10 up is just not acceptable for a top 2-3 player; I don't think it has ever happened to Lin Dan or Lee CW against others apart from each other perhaps.

Also G2 was like gifted to him by Darren, only in G3 he performed reasonably good. If I'm not wrong, Darren was commanding the net play and Chen Long had to change tactic to lift most of the shuttles to the baseline and bided his time to launch his attacking shots. And when the rallies wore on, it was usually Darren who lost his patience first and became more prone to errors, IMHO.

On the whole,Chen Long wasn't as sharp,accurate and aggressive as he could most of the time. IMHO,if he were to seriously challenge Lin Dan and Lee CW at their best, he still got a bit of work to do but I believe he can do it and reach there soon, with more valuable experience gained and a certain degree of maturity.