Super Series Grand Finale Group Stage (12-14 December 2012)

[pcll99]

but i read it somewhere that as long as a player can still walk, then he/she must show up. if not, they're still fined, even if they're injured/ill.
but please feel free to correct if i understand this whole thing wrongly.

was Wang Xin fined US$5250 even though she just had a surgery in Germany?

[Justin L]

I am a fan of facts and statistics..

Lets look at LCWs schedule from OG leading up to SSF:

Japan Open = on-court-time = 2 hours 38 minutes
Denmark Open = on-court-time = 3 hours 29 minutes
Hong Kong Open = on-court-time = 3 hours 24 minutes

So all in all 9 and a half hours of hard competion-play on between 2012-08-05 and 2012-12-12.

Thats about 3 hours of matchplay / month on average..

Can we really argue that this schedule is unreasonably hard on the players?? I imagine that the volume training and preparation time put in are far more demanding than the actual tournament-schedule itself for the top pros?!?!

Thanks for the stats, I get your point. But Lee CW is grousing about the whole year and the previous year after year, not just the few months post-Olympics. He said that in the post-match interview after his shocked loss to Du Pengyu.

Actually, I was a bit taken back by his outburst during the interview though I did sense something unusual or wrong with him after the Olympics, what with skipping the CHN Masters and CHN Open but still play in CBSL, his wedding preparations and all those activities and matters surrounding it such as the reporters hounding him, his family scandals, etc. Then the defeat by Chen Long which unsettled him and finally the humiliating loss to Du Pengyu was the straw that broke the camel's back.It was as if he suddenly let go his pent up emotions and saying enough is enough.

You can say a considerable part of it has to do with matters outside or unrelated to badminton directly and so shouldn't be blamed on the tournament schedule. But the point is , well, that's life; nobody being ordinary mortals can really separate work or career from his private life. To make matters worse, the many tournaments he has to play and the sponsorship obligations to meet, all add up to a breaking point.

[bad's fan]

But that is not really the same as being fined for injury.. That just states that you should help with promotional activities if you are injured and it allows you to do that.. Isn't that fair enough? Signing authographs, commenting matches and talking to fans, vip:s etc. should be possible even with a sprained ankle or thigh injury, or???

fair enough i think.

btw, is there any chance that those injured players that play in this year SSF just attending the tournament, not for free from the fine, but to gain more additional cash? because as AlanY mentioned before, even the last finisher in the group would get $3,000. what do you think?

[Justin L]

The way I see it, even if the problem affects only a handful of the top players in general and consistently, not just the odd one for his/her personal or special reasons, that is already cause for concern. For without these star attractions, the main draw in any super tournament, the long-term consequences for all the parties involved can be quite damaging to the sport.

I mean, we can have the 12 SS/PSS tournaments plus one SSF, not to mention the GPGs, but the requirements, demands, goals,expectations, obligations ,terms and conditions, can all be worked out with some give-and-take, some meaningful compromises to reach a viable solution that benefits everybody as far as possible. Where there's a will, there's a way.

[LD rules!]

Saina Nehwal vs Li Xuerui tomorrow !

Time to see if Li Xuerui deserves her Gold Medal or not.

What a ridiculous statement. There is no athlete (who is drug free that is) that doesn't deserve the medal they win at the Olympics.

*don't feed the troll*

[tham.nguyen]

There are videos have been uploaded on youtube. Just in case you can not view in you country due to some reasons, you can watch them here http://watchbadminton.com

[dedema]

It looks like CHina is on the way to sweep all the titles in this Super Series Grand finale. If that happens, it will make CHina the current holder of all the World Champion titles, all the Oplympic gold medals, all the Team match titles (T-Cup, U-Cup, and Surdiman) and all the Superseries Grand final titles. A complete set!

[Jonc108]

LXR vs SN: (fr BWF record)

H2H: LXR leads 4:2

Win-loss stat:

LXR: 126-28 (81.8% winning rate) for career; 54-5 (91.5% winning rate) for this year

SN: 204-89 (69.9% winning rate) for career; 41-11 (78.8% winning rate) for this year

Facts tell, no BS!

No one could rule out absolutely SN could surpass LXR in all these record in future, yet the deadly facts tell everyone who's better up to now at least! Isn't this already proved???

[LD rules!]

there is not going to be an air of doubtness, you are just trying to provoke a reaction by posting nonsense statements on this forum. People remember the unbeaten run she went on prior to the Olympics which allowed her selection, not the nonsense you post.

You know, with what you allege Saina might say does not help the reputation that Saina has (rightly or wrongly) for coming across as arrogant. Well done you for helping her image.

You have sources for all these groundbreaking scoops you seem to have stumbled on?

Li Xuerui is Olympic Champion, Saina Nehwal is not. Until then, your doubt is misplaced and purely created to wind up other people...

EDIT: Seems the troll I replied to has disappeared, good job mods!

[depleter]

*scratching my head* why is my post removed?

[Beta2k]

stupid question, but how did VITTINGHUS get into this event when he is only #10 in super series standing ? http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14956
at least sasaki was #9 and why isnt he playing?

[LD rules!]

stupid question, but how did VITTINGHUS get into this event when he is only #10 in super series standing ? http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14956
at least sasaki was #9 and why isnt he playing?

Sasaki elected to withdraw. Simple

[Cheung]

All secondary and subsequent posts to a troller get deleted (almost 'all')

[depleter]

stupid question, but how did VITTINGHUS get into this event when he is only #10 in super series standing ? http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14956
at least sasaki was #9 and why isnt he playing?

Only 2 players at max from a country can play.As china has 3 wang zhengming ca'nt play.Next sasaki was invited but he rejected.so VITTINGHUS is playing.

[Jonc108]

All secondary and subsequent posts to a troller get deleted (almost 'all')

Fair enough, mod. Next time we should just simply ignore the troller.

[scorpion1]

there is not going to be an air of doubtness, you are just trying to provoke a reaction by posting nonsense statements on this forum. People remember the unbeaten run she went on prior to the Olympics which allowed her selection, not the nonsense you post.

You know, with what you allege Saina might say does not help the reputation that Saina has (rightly or wrongly) for coming across as arrogant. Well done you for helping her image.

You have sources for all these groundbreaking scoops you seem to have stumbled on?

Li Xuerui is Olympic Champion, Saina Nehwal is not. Until then, your doubt is misplaced and purely created to wind up other people...

EDIT: Seems the troll I replied to has disappeared, good job mods!

Saina has (rightly or wrongly) for coming across as arrogant -- Whats wrong with you man!!! Moderators have to look into this as well not only seeing as one sided ...If people defend themselves from such a comment arises from LD Rules targeting a particular player, then he is called as troller. And what is this guy named as????? I have been watching this guy LD Rules , seems to be so enthusiastic in disgracing and posting comments against saina in any thread whereever her name arises.. What's your real problem man?..

Whatever you say, whether she passes today's hurdle or not, she is one of the best women's singles badminton player in the world..

The way this guy is irritating all the saina's fans by simply calling her as arrogant and unnecessarily dragging others by his objectionable comments.. Moderators have to definitely look into this..

I definitely, know the moderator 'cheung' will look into this and take appropriate steps as soon as possible.. I have been noticing LD Rules ... Unnecessary he will start to make some controversial statement and try to get pleasure from that..

[twobeer]

Thanks for the stats, I get your point. But Lee CW is grousing about the whole year and the previous year after year, not just the few months post-Olympics. He said that in the post-match interview after his shocked loss to Du Pengyu.

Actually, I was a bit taken back by his outburst during the interview though I did sense something unusual or wrong with him after the Olympics, what with skipping the CHN Masters and CHN Open but still play in CBSL, his wedding preparations and all those activities and matters surrounding it such as the reporters hounding him, his family scandals, etc. Then the defeat by Chen Long which unsettled him and finally the humiliating loss to Du Pengyu was the straw that broke the camel's back.It was as if he suddenly let go his pent up emotions and saying enough is enough.

You can say a considerable part of it has to do with matters outside or unrelated to badminton directly and so shouldn't be blamed on the tournament schedule. But the point is , well, that's life; nobody being ordinary mortals can really separate work or career from his private life. To make matters worse, the many tournaments he has to play and the sponsorship obligations to meet, all add up to a breaking point.

I hope my post didn't come across as critizising LCW for speaking out.. I think he is barking up the wrong tree with critizing BWF and the schedule in this case, but I am also a big fan of honesty, and really like when players get emotional in interviews and really speak what's on their minds instead of just giving the same boring rehearsed professionally correct bs to all post-game questions all th time!