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    Can I ask where you are from and if you had to pay any tax on your package (customs)? Do you happen to know what price the package is marked at (or if there is any papers with the price attached to the package)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider View Post
    Really? Is that really the case? Honestly, the weight distribution of both the F version of the FB and the Duoforce seem similar if not the same. I don't have a scale so I can't do that for you, but again, I'm just telling you how I feel about the two rackets. It's not a scientific test. lol. Honestly, the Duoforce feels much lighter than I had thought. I'm not saying it's as light or as manuverable as the FB. Obviously it's much heavier, but it does seem lighter than my AT800 DE.

    As for impression about the racket, you guys will all have to wait until either Wednesday night or Thursday morning.
    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/lear...r/wtbalswt.php (disregard the whereabouts of the balance point in that article since it pertains to tennis rackets)

    "For equal weight racquets, the closer the balance point (center of mass) is to your hand, the less force (torque) you need to hold the racquet up horizontal to the ground (holding at the handle)."

    Assuming the VT80 weighed roughly the same, this is why the Duoforce feels lighter. A 4U AT800D is still a headheavyish racket, so when simply picking it up (by the handle) it could very well still feel heavier than a 3U headlight DuoForce ...
    Last edited by Cheung; 05-15-2013 at 03:10 AM.

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    I couldn't resist I had to order Duoforce & power hybrid strings.... can't wait but did anyone else that ordered have to pay extra taxes at the checkout ? I had to pay about 12 extra

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
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    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/lear...r/wtbalswt.php (disregard the whereabouts of the balance point in that article since it pertains to tennis rackets)

    "For equal weight racquets, the closer the balance point (center of mass) is to your hand, the less force (torque) you need to hold the racquet up horizontal to the ground (holding at the handle)."

    Assuming the VT80 weighed roughly the same, this is why the Duoforce feels lighter. A 4U AT800D is still a headheavyish racket, so when simply picking it up (by the handle) it could very well still feel heavier than a 3U headlight DuoForce ...
    Thanks for the explanation. After swing the racket today, I have to say, I really think I'll like it. I'm going to make some predictions here base on just swing the racket around. As for in game impressions, you guys will have to wait until later tonight or tomorrow morning.

    I think I'm going to smash as hard if not harder with this racket. Because of the good weight distribution, I feel this racket will perform better than my AT800 DE whether it's offensively or defensively. Like I said before, I'm still shocked that this is a 3U racket. However, there's no way this racket is going to be as maneuverable as the Arc FB. It's just not possible when the Duoforce is 20g+ heavier than the FB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcken200 View Post
    I couldn't resist I had to order Duoforce & power hybrid strings.... can't wait but did anyone else that ordered have to pay extra taxes at the checkout ? I had to pay about 12 extra
    I don't think you'll regret it. The Duoforce seems like it's a special racket. I hope it'll meet my expectations later tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. After swing the racket today, I have to say, I really think I'll like it. I'm going to make some predictions here base on just swing the racket around. As for in game impressions, you guys will have to wait until later tonight or tomorrow morning.

    I think I'm going to smash as hard if not harder with this racket. Because of the good weight distribution, I feel this racket will perform better than my AT800 DE whether it's offensively or defensively. Like I said before, I'm still shocked that this is a 3U racket. However, there's no way this racket is going to be as maneuverable as the Arc FB. It's just not possible when the Duoforce is 20g+ heavier than the FB.
    swing weight is different from the weight of the racket
    in golf clubs, there is a rating system for swing weights but really it's complicated and too much techno stuff involved
    so, cut it short, if it swings right, that's the swing weight you'll be used to
    Adding extra wrap (extra weight) will in theory change the swing weight of the racket, but the change is just so small to notice
    Leave the technical stuff to the manufacturer and enjoy your new weapon

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    unboxing of the Precision Pro and Adipower Tour:


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    kwun is evil!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkee View Post
    kwun is evil!!!
    He gets all those rackets for FREE! While us? *watching cash with wings flying away*

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    as i mentioned before, there is no free lunch.

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    some specs on the new rackets:

    Precision Pro:

    85.85g weight
    295mm balance point
    36.8g head weight

    Adipower Tour:

    86.85g weight
    289mm balance point
    36.3g head weight

    somewhat similar specs as both are from the same mold and medium stiff. but plays very differently!

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    The Adipower Tour is a lovely looking racket.

    Here is the stringing video. I used a different camera this time and it is sharper and shows better details. make sure you watch it in HD 720p:



    around 18mins 15secs. not bad.

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    nice little starting clamp trick to pull near the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkee View Post
    swing weight is different from the weight of the racket
    in golf clubs, there is a rating system for swing weights but really it's complicated and too much techno stuff involved
    so, cut it short, if it swings right, that's the swing weight you'll be used to
    Adding extra wrap (extra weight) will in theory change the swing weight of the racket, but the change is just so small to notice
    Leave the technical stuff to the manufacturer and enjoy your new weapon
    Haha, or just leave it to you experts to simplify for me?

    After a few short rallies, I can say that this is probably the best 3U racket I've ever used in my life. So much power...I can't say for sure whether I've set any new personal records or not since I don't have a radar gun, but yea, it's definitely as good as any other offensively minded rackets I've used. My day is not done yet. Will post more later!
    Last edited by Sgt_Strider; 05-15-2013 at 06:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider View Post
    Haha, or just leave it to you experts to simplify for me?

    After a few short rallies, I can say that this is probably the best 3U racket I've ever used in my life. So much power...I can't say for sure whether I've set any new personal records or not since I don't have a radar gun, but yea, it's definitely as good as any other offensively minded rackets I've used. My day is not done yet. Will post more later!
    Don't be too happy yet~~~
    Adidas probably got a whole series of racket to come out later
    or at least for the year~~~
    These big companies are there to suck your money!!!
    Adidas Golf section comes out new stuff non-stop over the year, I think they will do that in badminton section too~~~
    There will be Adizero Pro Twos... Duoforce Twos in the line~~~
    Start saving!!!

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    now waiting for MBS to have the switch

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkee View Post
    Don't be too happy yet~~~
    Adidas probably got a whole series of racket to come out later
    or at least for the year~~~
    These big companies are there to suck your money!!!
    Adidas Golf section comes out new stuff non-stop over the year, I think they will do that in badminton section too~~~
    There will be Adizero Pro Twos... Duoforce Twos in the line~~~
    Start saving!!!
    After trying out a bunch of rackets over the last couple of months, I know what I want in a racket. I know for sure I won't like the Adipower Tour or Adipower Pro.

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