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    http://www.directbadminton.co.uk/Pro...mSearchPage=No

    Visiting Direct Sports UK website above, they list racket specs as measured by them for every racket, but for APP they list it as flex shaft(?) 61mm according to their measurement method presumably weight deflection.

    In comparison, AZP is 56mm, MX70 53mm, MXJJS 55mm, VZTF 53mm, VT80 55mm, ZSPD 61mm, ARC9FL 60mm.

    Does that make sense? Is the APP reverse taper shaft that flexy?

    To me felt slightly less stiff than MX70 and VT80, but not that flexy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    http://www.directbadminton.co.uk/Pro...mSearchPage=No

    Visiting Direct Sports UK website above, they list racket specs as measured by them for every racket, but for APP they list it as flex shaft(?) 61mm according to their measurement method presumably weight deflection.

    In comparison, AZP is 56mm, MX70 53mm, MXJJS 55mm, VZTF 53mm, VT80 55mm, ZSPD 61mm, ARC9FL 60mm.

    Does that make sense? Is the APP reverse taper shaft that flexy?

    To me felt slightly less stiff than MX70 and VT80, but not that flexy.
    Interesting is that the N90 (1st gen) is 61mm and classified as flexible. There's been many feedback that it is one of the stiffest racquet around and certainly my own experience attest to that.

    They got the Carlton Vapour Trail Elite correct though, it is listed as 49mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    http://www.directbadminton.co.uk/Pro...mSearchPage=No

    Visiting Direct Sports UK website above, they list racket specs as measured by them for every racket, but for APP they list it as flex shaft(?) 61mm according to their measurement method presumably weight deflection.

    In comparison, AZP is 56mm, MX70 53mm, MXJJS 55mm, VZTF 53mm, VT80 55mm, ZSPD 61mm, ARC9FL 60mm.

    Does that make sense? Is the APP reverse taper shaft that flexy?

    To me felt slightly less stiff than MX70 and VT80, but not that flexy.
    Reviewing further, it would seem that they mixed it up with AZP.

    So APP should be 56mm and AZP is 61mm.

    Makes sense now as AZP is noticeably flexier than APP.

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    Another session with the APP. This is really turning out well as a future singles racket.
    For doubles I do feel that I'm not strong enough to react as quick as I'd like though.
    I'm wondering if the Adipower Duoforce might be a option for doubles.
    Anyone got input on a good adidas racket for doubles, for someone who can only wield APP for singles?

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    ^ what're your specs ie wt, bp, and head wt if possible?

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    ^ Specs on my APP?
    How do you messure the head wt?

    APP before stringing a regripping: 291 / 87,30
    APP after stringing an regripping: 290 / 98,50
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    Duoforce is a great doubles racket (it's good for singles too). I had good reaction times and smashes were very good (offc not as powerful as head heavy rackets, but powerful enough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nauroa View Post
    ^ Specs on my APP?
    How do you messure the head wt?

    APP before stringing a regripping: 291 / 87,30
    APP after stringing an regripping: 290 / 98,50
    That's heavier than the one I tried, 86.4/293, which was manageable for doubles.

    For head wt, check my thread.
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...f-swing-weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    That's heavier than the one I tried, 86.4/293, which was manageable for doubles.

    For head wt, check my thread.
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...f-swing-weight

    Do you get your racquets from Linus as well? I'm returning the Zspeed tomorrow and hopefully he's got some adidas racquets for me to try out hahaha.

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    Using that method I get a head wt @ 41,25g

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nauroa View Post
    Using that method I get a head wt @ 41,25g
    Compare that with some of your other rackets that you like for doubles.

    For example, my preferred head wt for doubles is around 40.8g wet or 37.6g dry.
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    Wouldn't it require me knowing the head wt of the duoforce to make use of that comparison?

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    Head wt is most likely going to be different for everyone (assuming the exact same racket), the tilt of the racket (height of the base for the handle) and scale precision will make it differ. I think that measure would only be useful to compare rackets that are measured by the same person.

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    ^ If his scale is accurate to +/-0.01g as is mine, then we should get the same numbers.

    And even if the racket is not perfectly level, the measurements are not that far off that we can't compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    ^ If his scale is accurate to +/-0.01g as is mine, then we should get the same numbers.

    And even if the racket is not perfectly level, the measurements are not that far off that we can't compare.
    If they are calibrated together....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    If they are calibrated together....
    Assuming the gravity in his area is the same as mine, 2 different scales that are accurate and precise should and would measure the same to within it's error tolerance.

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    ^ For example, if you bought 1 lb of sugar in HK and I bought 1 lb of sugar in Canada, we both should have the same mass and weight of sugar, shouldn't we?

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