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    Quote Originally Posted by maxout View Post
    Hint: They are the ONLY Yonex racquets that comes with GOLD colour embossed Yonex lettering on the grip and Buttcaps !! and have been used by WORLD CHAMPIONS ...

    "Almighty" VTZF cannot even claim such pedigree as it has not been used by a single world champion (since LCW cannot win it just yet !!)
    The Armortec 700?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxout View Post
    Hint: They are the ONLY Yonex racquets that comes with GOLD colour embossed Yonex lettering on the grip and Buttcaps !! and have been used by WORLD CHAMPIONS ...

    "Almighty" VTZF cannot even claim such pedigree as it has not been used by a single world champion (since LCW cannot win it just yet !!)
    wah.. you mean the CAB20?.... i tried it today.... a bit strange on the feel, although it packs quite a bit of a punch.. my dad handles it quite well but me, being too used to modern aerodynamic racquets find it a little unwieldy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vajrasattva View Post
    wah.. you mean the CAB20?.... i tried it today.... a bit strange on the feel, although it packs quite a bit of a punch.. my dad handles it quite well but me, being too used to modern aerodynamic racquets find it a little unwieldy.
    Hahaha ... guess YOUR DAD knows a GOOD STUFF when he gets it ... try it a bit longer and you will LOVE it more than anything else, the "feel" that you found strange, is the SOLID FEEL - a BEAUTIFUL FULL-BODIED CONTACT SENSATION when the racquet and shuttlecock are in contact, only found in OVAL frames ... if you want to try the head-heavy version, go for CAB21 ... that one will give a REAL "HEAVY" PUNCH !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxout View Post
    Hahaha ... guess YOUR DAD knows a GOOD STUFF when he gets it ... try it a bit longer and you will LOVE it more than anything else, the "feel" that you found strange, is the SOLID FEEL ... if you want to try the head-heavy versio, go for CAB21 ... that one will give a REAL PUNCH !!
    I have the 21 Special and it works like a charm.... except when it comes to defence of smashes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSOFInfinity View Post
    I have the 21 Special and it works like a charm.... except when it comes to defence of smashes....
    No, no, no ... CAB21 Special ... is (sorry to say) "crap" ... you need CAB20sp or CAB21sp in Malaysia to get that full OOOMMMPPPHHH .... btw, when you use CABS, you are supposed TO SMASH THE OPPOSITION ... not use CAB to defend their smashes ... hahahaha ... (terbalik !!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSOFInfinity View Post
    The Armortec 700?
    This is another GOOD racquet ... almost ...

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    I play both often, occasionally singles, occasionally doubles

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    I use a not popular racket - Hi Qua Power 2070

    Nobody seemed to ever have heard of it before, I think it is head light or even balance. It seemed to be alright up net, but does not deliver enough power, like when I smash, my opponents can return it, and when I clear, occasionally it drops before it reaches the opponents rear court.

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    The VTZF 88 you're talking about is that best all round racket priced at mid range? What is that racket you are talking about? O.o
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    He's talking about the cab 20sp. Look at his past posts you'll notice a pattern :P. The vtzf-88 is basically as expensive as yonex gets but if you get a 4u and you can handle the weight and the stiffness I'd say it is a pretty decent all rounder.

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    Be wary of the Arc Saber Z slash. You see quite a few 2nd hand. Not a lot of people like it after trying it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSOFInfinity View Post
    NS9900 - Excellent for singles, not so for doubles. You can't actually "feel" the shuttle when hitting it, making your shots astray at times. Also lacks power in the smashing and drive department.
    That is opposite to the generally accepted 'opinion' that ns9900 is great/better for doubles than for singles.

    To op: rackets are down to personal preference and what you as a player are willing to sacrifice and what you want some help with. e.g.

    more power, but worse defense.

    faster mid-court play (probably better defense), but less power.

    etc.

    technical/physical limitations may prevent some rackets being good choices at all.

    Since you give none of this information it is impossible to reasonably suggest any racket over another.

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    IMHO, since the Cab20, Yonex has not produced a DECENT PROPER ALL-ROUNDER ... all the tweaks and fancy materials, have "customised" the racquets into defensive/offensive types ... but A TRUE BLUE ALL-ROUNDER, none ....

    If you can open up to look into other brands, the ONLY OTHER racquet, I would consider WORTHY of the "all round" tag from the word-go (i.e off-the shelf), without having to "adjust" your capabilities to handle stiffness, weight, etc ... is the VICTOR BRAVESWORD 11 ... mind you, this "baby" is not cheap, in Malaysia, cost nearly 2X a Cab20sp .... for now, should the Cab20 ever becomes EXTINCT, this is the racquet I am buying ... until I try the Gosen Ryoga and make a comparison ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by decoy View Post
    He's talking about the cab 20sp. Look at his past posts you'll notice a pattern :P. The vtzf-88 is basically as expensive as yonex gets but if you get a 4u and you can handle the weight and the stiffness I'd say it is a pretty decent all rounder.
    Hahhaa ... spot on !!

    Like you said, a "pretty decent all-rounder" BUT NOT A TRUE ALL-ROUNDER like the Cab20sp ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxout View Post
    Hahhaa ... spot on !!Like you said, a "pretty decent all-rounder" BUT NOT A TRUE ALL-ROUNDER like the Cab20sp ...
    you're right I always think all round is a weird term though because isn't the only time you would want something perfectly rounded if every aspect of YOUR game is perfectly equal?

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    Why I always talk lyrically about the Cab20sp ? Apart from it being my favourite

    Well, that is because, MAJORITY of posters always ask for AN ALL-ROUNDER that is excellent for BOTH singles and doubles .... a racquet that you can play "equally" well for both types of games.

    And apart from Cab20/20sp (and may I also add Victor BS11) .... sorry to say, NO OTHER "NEW" racquets are a TRUE BLUE ALL-ROUNDER ... these big manufacturers have stopped making PROPER ALL-ROUNDER racquets that people used to play like in the past because, nowadays, badminton players specialise into singles or doubles specialist ...

    But to the MILLIONS of average Joes like us, are ... well ... NON-SPECIALIST ... so, we seek out ALL-ROUNDER ... and the "God-of-badminton" YONEX "accidentally" made the ULTIMATE one back in 1985 ... called the CARBONEX 20 ... unsurpassed untill today ...

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    I think you're right I just don't think people should seek a perfect all rounder unless they really don't have at least one speific aspect of their game they want to improve

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