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    Quote Originally Posted by n0m5ky View Post
    I, and I'm sure a number of people in this forum, have been waiting for someone doing a comparison between Arc FB F(6U) and 5U. Please kindly those who have been "lucky" to have and use them provide a review. I do appreciate your kindness.

    As for the assumption that CM is using a sprayed ZF (not actually a FB), is there anyone who can provide us with a snapshot or any image to prove it? Now we are living in a digital era. Thus, I believe that only a I-heard-someone-said-bla-bla-bla evidence is not enough to support an assumption.
    Buddy, you live in Tokyo. Just buy one and test it out for yourself if you're desperate for an answer.

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    The fact that I live in Tokyo does not mean that I have the money. I don`t know maybe you have a money tree at your backyard that you can buy anything you want (I believe you have bought so many rackets), but for me I want to spend my money wisely. I believe this forum is a place for sharing things and those who have been lucky to possess a certain racket has the privilege to share his thoughts on it so that people who need them would get a view to decide.

    If you are busy or even hesitate to write a comparison, that would be fine. I just hope someone who possess those F and 5U Arc FBs would be kindly share his thoughts on them. And my appreciation to them for their effort.

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    Comparing the same model racket but with an average of 5g difference... shouldn't the result be obvious?
    Haven't you ever done this yourself?

    I and others can very easily tell you that
    with a heavier one, you'll get more power for overhead shots and attack, at
    the expense of underhand shots and defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Comparing the same model racket but with an average of 5g difference... shouldn't the result be obvious?
    Haven't you ever done this yourself?

    I and others can very easily tell you that
    with a heavier one, you'll get more power for overhead shots and attack, at
    the expense of underhand shots and defence.
    At the Sudirman Cup semi-finals, Ratchanok was playing with the Arc-FB -again!

    Granted, she was hobbled in one leg and in obvious discomfort, but you could notice the lack of power in many of her shots especially those she had to stretch and reach forward and low, for. The only shots where she got full value for money were her overheads, when she had enough time to complete a full swing.

    Note to all: I'm talking about a pro player in a competitive enviroment that most of us can only ever play in our dreams! Again, RI was coming off the ARC-10 that she has been used to for a long, long time, and there will still be times when she may not have compensated her play to adjust to the flyswatter... so her experience may mean squat for most of us. Still and all, if she persists with using the FB (won the India Open with it, too) it can't be too shabby...

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    Visor, is it as simple/easy as that? Is it fact or assumption? If it's as simple as that, we should close any discussion on comparison between size versions of a racket, shouldn't we? But I think we all agree that the question would still remain: how much? How much 5gr makes the difference? How much 5gr adds power to your shot and suffers your defense? Is it noticeable or not? Which version you think is best for your playing style?

    Thus, we need someone to tell us his thoughts on this matter. Even though it's going to be a subjective view, but at least we'll get a view to help us to make a decision which version might be suitable for ourselves. Sometimes we think a question looks silly or stupid, but I think helping others finding an answer to their problem is one of the reasons why this forum is made for.

    Again and again, I'm still waiting and hoping for someone making a comparison between the two and I believe I am in a right place to do so.

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    I'm hoping for a comparison review of the 6U and 5U from @Matt
    and one of the FB 6u vs 5U vs Photon from @yan.v
    That would complete the picture for me!

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    ^^ In no way was I belittling your query.

    It's just my experienice after trying out over 20 rackets in the past 2 years. And at what point is 5g noticeable or how that affects your attack and defence is totally and completely subjective to each individual... as you can appreciate. So the short answer is that only you yourself can determine whether it works for you or not, by trying it out yourself. I know that can be an expensive endeavour but you can always resell it easily since its a hot new release. But for the sake of finding the right specs for you, it's worth it. Imho, as I have done.

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    And yes if we're talking about 5g difference, it is as simple as I stated earlier.

    5g is a HUGE noticeable difference.

    (talking about same model racket of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    I'm hoping for a comparison review of the 6U and 5U from @Matt
    and one of the FB 6u vs 5U vs Photon from @yan.v
    That would complete the picture for me!
    Only got the 6U version of the FB since 5U isn't available in Canada.

    I'd say the Photon is more accessible than the FB. It is more flexible and the frame is slightly bigger (despite being a little more oval) than the FB, so the sweet spot is easier to hit and the power comes more naturally. So the Photon seems to generally require less effort than the FB, but FB is more rewarding when playing good.

    On most nights, the FB seems wonderful, but when you're not "in it" for the night, you can find that it is very unforgiving for mis-hits (expectably so).

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0m5ky View Post
    The fact that I live in Tokyo does not mean that I have the money. I don`t know maybe you have a money tree at your backyard that you can buy anything you want (I believe you have bought so many rackets), but for me I want to spend my money wisely. I believe this forum is a place for sharing things and those who have been lucky to possess a certain racket has the privilege to share his thoughts on it so that people who need them would get a view to decide.

    If you are busy or even hesitate to write a comparison, that would be fine. I just hope someone who possess those F and 5U Arc FBs would be kindly share his thoughts on them. And my appreciation to them for their effort.
    As I have said earlier, I was busy reviewing my Adidas Duoforce. I will post my 5U FB impressions at a later point in time. If you want a quicker answer, then the fastest way for you to find out is to buy your own racket.

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    I will post my impressions of the 5U racket later tonight. It's too difficult typing out my thoughts from my iPhone. Bottom Line = I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    ^^ In no way was I belittling your query.

    It's just my experience after trying out over 20 rackets in the past 2 years. And at what point is 5g noticeable or how that affects your attack and defence is totally and completely subjective to each individual... as you can appreciate. So the short answer is that only you yourself can determine whether it works for you or not, by trying it out yourself. I know that can be an expensive endeavour but you can always resell it easily since its a hot new release. But for the sake of finding the right specs for you, it's worth it. Imho, as I have done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider View Post
    As I have said earlier, I was busy reviewing my Adidas Duoforce. I will post my 5U FB impressions at a later point in time. If you want a quicker answer, then the fastest way for you to find out is to buy your own racket.

    n0m5ky, I do agree with what Visor and Sgt_Strider said. The different weight (as minor as it seems) has to be felt by that particular individual seeking to know the difference. E.g. one might find that there isn't an upgrade from Arc10 to Arc11, but to another it might seem like night and day. So it would be very hard for you to make a judgement solely on other's review on the rackets. Esp if they are of the same base model, it might be easier to get a clearer idea on the difference of the racket if they are comparing Yonex to Victor or even Volt vs NanoRay.

    Here is a little background to tell you where I am coming from. Recently I've been bugging a few people, trying to get as much information about Arc FB (and Duoforce) as possible as I was considering getting a FB too. And similar to you I've waited for someone to do a review on the difference between the 5U and F. One of the unfortunate people whom I've probably irritated is Sgt_Strider. I had "interrogated" him for about 3 day continuously digging out "intel" on the FB/5U FB. But I realised that no matter how good his replies were, that would only be one's opinion. But it hit me the most when he said that "You have to be very weak not to be able to hit the birdie with the FB from one end of the court to the other and that's with the 6U version of the FB. I'm not even a big guy". I mean thats as much information as one needs on the FB without trying how the racket him/herself.

    Despite reading on badmintoncentral and the Chinese badminton forum that it is quite fragile, I decided to get one for myself and test it out. And I am quite glad I got it =D

    Yes the smashes might be less powerful, yes a misshit might cost a point or two. But I get so much reward for turning defence into offence in a way that one will be able to catch other's smashes easier and giving the opportunity to hook it. However I have tried a way to work around the weight and getting smashes be as hard as my Arc10.

    Conclusion, my short and brief review of my ArcFB might be not of value to you as this is MY perspective on the FB. It might or might not suit your play style thus I would really recommend just getting a cheaper/used version of the FB and try it out yourself. But if you're one whom like to keep smashing hard consecutively, instead of driving/ net play/ deceptive shots, then I'd recommend you look for something else. Cuz FB ain't gonna let you smash like a Volt. If it's any useful info to you, I'm in my twenties, had a shoulder surgery about 2 year ago, still at 75% of my arm strength though I doubt I can heal back to more than 80% compared to before. Play-style was forced to change due to surgery, from a hard smasher (but not much of others eg netplay and drives) to a more all-rounded player. Height about 170cm and 75kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperAustinChu View Post
    n0m5ky, I do agree with what Visor and Sgt_Strider said. The different weight (as minor as it seems) has to be felt by that particular individual seeking to know the difference. E.g. one might find that there isn't an upgrade from Arc10 to Arc11, but to another it might seem like night and day. So it would be very hard for you to make a judgement solely on other's review on the rackets. Esp if they are of the same base model, it might be easier to get a clearer idea on the difference of the racket if they are comparing Yonex to Victor or even Volt vs NanoRay.

    Here is a little background to tell you where I am coming from. Recently I've been bugging a few people, trying to get as much information about Arc FB (and Duoforce) as possible as I was considering getting a FB too. And similar to you I've waited for someone to do a review on the difference between the 5U and F. One of the unfortunate people whom I've probably irritated is Sgt_Strider. I had "interrogated" him for about 3 day continuously digging out "intel" on the FB/5U FB. But I realised that no matter how good his replies were, that would only be one's opinion. But it hit me the most when he said that "You have to be very weak not to be able to hit the birdie with the FB from one end of the court to the other and that's with the 6U version of the FB. I'm not even a big guy". I mean thats as much information as one needs on the FB without trying how the racket him/herself.

    Despite reading on badmintoncentral and the Chinese badminton forum that it is quite fragile, I decided to get one for myself and test it out. And I am quite glad I got it =D

    Yes the smashes might be less powerful, yes a misshit might cost a point or two. But I get so much reward for turning defence into offence in a way that one will be able to catch other's smashes easier and giving the opportunity to hook it. However I have tried a way to work around the weight and getting smashes be as hard as my Arc10.

    Conclusion, my short and brief review of my ArcFB might be not of value to you as this is MY perspective on the FB. It might or might not suit your play style thus I would really recommend just getting a cheaper/used version of the FB and try it out yourself. But if you're one whom like to keep smashing hard consecutively, instead of driving/ net play/ deceptive shots, then I'd recommend you look for something else. Cuz FB ain't gonna let you smash like a Volt. If it's any useful info to you, I'm in my twenties, had a shoulder surgery about 2 year ago, still at 75% of my arm strength though I doubt I can heal back to more than 80% compared to before. Play-style was forced to change due to surgery, from a hard smasher (but not much of others eg netplay and drives) to a more all-rounded player. Height about 170cm and 75kg.
    I had similar experience with Karakal BN60. I was struggling to send the shuttle beyond midcourt of the opposite court. It is an acquired tact. Took me 6 months to master it. But the end result is very rewarding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperAustinChu View Post
    n0m5ky, I do agree with what Visor and Sgt_Strider said. The different weight (as minor as it seems) has to be felt by that particular individual seeking to know the difference. E.g. one might find that there isn't an upgrade from Arc10 to Arc11, but to another it might seem like night and day. So it would be very hard for you to make a judgement solely on other's review on the rackets. Esp if they are of the same base model, it might be easier to get a clearer idea on the difference of the racket if they are comparing Yonex to Victor or even Volt vs NanoRay.

    Here is a little background to tell you where I am coming from. Recently I've been bugging a few people, trying to get as much information about Arc FB (and Duoforce) as possible as I was considering getting a FB too. And similar to you I've waited for someone to do a review on the difference between the 5U and F. One of the unfortunate people whom I've probably irritated is Sgt_Strider. I had "interrogated" him for about 3 day continuously digging out "intel" on the FB/5U FB. But I realised that no matter how good his replies were, that would only be one's opinion. But it hit me the most when he said that "You have to be very weak not to be able to hit the birdie with the FB from one end of the court to the other and that's with the 6U version of the FB. I'm not even a big guy". I mean thats as much information as one needs on the FB without trying how the racket him/herself.

    Despite reading on badmintoncentral and the Chinese badminton forum that it is quite fragile, I decided to get one for myself and test it out. And I am quite glad I got it =D

    Yes the smashes might be less powerful, yes a misshit might cost a point or two. But I get so much reward for turning defence into offence in a way that one will be able to catch other's smashes easier and giving the opportunity to hook it. However I have tried a way to work around the weight and getting smashes be as hard as my Arc10.

    Conclusion, my short and brief review of my ArcFB might be not of value to you as this is MY perspective on the FB. It might or might not suit your play style thus I would really recommend just getting a cheaper/used version of the FB and try it out yourself. But if you're one whom like to keep smashing hard consecutively, instead of driving/ net play/ deceptive shots, then I'd recommend you look for something else. Cuz FB ain't gonna let you smash like a Volt. If it's any useful info to you, I'm in my twenties, had a shoulder surgery about 2 year ago, still at 75% of my arm strength though I doubt I can heal back to more than 80% compared to before. Play-style was forced to change due to surgery, from a hard smasher (but not much of others eg netplay and drives) to a more all-rounded player. Height about 170cm and 75kg.
    Haha, I tried my best to answer your questions, but I don't have the time to answer them all.

    I didn't realized that you're at around my height. I'm slightly taller than you, but you're quite a bit heavier than me. lol!

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    I played about 1.5 hours during the weekend with the 5U Arc FB. The short answer here is that I love the racket.

    I'm not going to post a detail review because the 5U is more or less identical to the 6U version of the racket except that it's heavier. Is it a lot heavier? No, I don't think so and I'm a pretty small guy so I would be quite sensitive to any weight differences.

    Is the 5U version more powerful than the 6U version? Without a doubt, it's more powerful, but I can't say that my smashes are a lot faster with the 5U than the 6U. I'm going to need a bit more time to acclimate to the new racket. I've spent about 10 hours using the Adidas Duoforce so one of the things that I've noticed were timing problems. It took me about 2-4 hours to get use the 6U so it doesn't surprise me that I'm going to need more time to get use to the 5U. The difference between the Duoforce and the 5U Arc FB is night and day so it just wasn't realistic for me to be playing at my best during the initial 1.5 hours.

    In theory, this racket should be less maneuverable than the 6U FB. I say in theory because it's heavier. However, I didn't really notice anything wrong with the 5U FB. My defence seems to be as good as it was before with the 6U FB. I suppose this is a good thing.

    I can also confirm that the 5U FB is just as strain free as the 6U FB. I am definitely not as tired using the 5U Arc FB than with my Duoforce. My shoulders felt quite good at the end of my session.

    As for the fragility of the racket, I wouldn't avoid this racket just because it's more fragile than other Yonex racket. If you can take advantage of this racket, I think you'll be impressed with what it can do on the court.

    Does the 5U FB address the power issue? I can't say for sure because we're all different. It's certainly not as powerful as my Duoforce. If you go from an offensively oriented racket to the Arc FB (5U/6U), you're going to lose a bit of power no matter what. I don't think the loss in power is as dramatic as what some people have said, but I can only speak for myself. As I said before, I am more than willing to give us a bit of power if it improved my defence and make me a more rounded player. I still believe that I am a better play today with the Arc FB than with any other racket. Having said that, I think the gap between the Arc FB and the Duoforce is narrowing; at least for me. The more I use the Duoforce, the more it grows on me. I've been spending a bit of time working on my defence while playing with the Duoforce. As of now I still think I'm playing my best badminton with the Arc FB. This is applicable to the 6U, but there's no doubt that once I acclimate to the 5U FB, I think I will be as good as I was before with a harder smash.

    The bottom line here is that the 5U Arc FB is my favourite racket for doubles.

    I will post some more updated impressions later this week. I'm just getting started with the 5U Arc FB.
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    I forgot to mention that I like the Arc FB so much that I'm going to buy a backup racket. I wouldn't be buying a backup Arc FB if I don't like it.

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    Sgt_Strider,

    Thanks for the brief comparison as well as your thoughts on the 5U FB. I do appreciate it.

    I`ve been thinking on getting a 5U FB or a 4U ZF, but finally decided to go for the FB. Even though one of my friends had a bad experience with the "fragile" 6U FB (actually he said he was satisfied with how the racket delivered, but not the durability of the frame) as I have mentioned in this forum, I`m ready to try my luck with the 5U version. Actually the racket will be coming into my apartment in a hour as now I`m waiting for Kuroneko Yamato (クロネコヤマト) Transport to knock my door.

    I`m not quite sure whether the racket will suit my playing style as I come from a 3U Z-Slash, but after reading reviews in this forum I`m confident enough that it will deliver and improve my game. Really looking forward to playing with the racket tomorrow night.

    Is there anyone here who came from a 3U Z-Slash to a 6U/5U FB and felt satisfied?

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