Players with CAB 20 MS and BG85/80 combo

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  1. cappy75

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    Hey there! Stringers and/or anybody with CAB 20 MS and BG 85/80 combo, could you share your playing experience and tell me how high you strung your racquet at? Presently playing at 22lbX23lb, I am contemplating an upgrade from BG 70 PRO as well as stringing my beloved CAB 20 Muscle at higher tension (25lbs~27lbs). I am really going out on a limb here since I know few people (BF forum and clubs) beside Lazybuddy and me uses CAB 20MS (2U). I would like to know how high CAB 20MS' tension treshold is. Thanks!
     
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    Lol... Even I am no longer using cab20ms (2u) nowdays.

    Noticed another club member using cab20ms(2u). He strung his racket with BG65 @ 23 or 24 lb. Currently serve him well.
     
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    Hey LB,

    Yeah, I noticed about a month or so back that you listed your CAB 20MS for sale. Anyway, I really loved this racquet and before I subject it to further experimentation, I want to hear from other CAB 20MS users who strung theirs at relatively high tension.

    This is not just a leap of faith for the racquet, it's also one for my stringer... I have yet to ask him to string at higher than 24lbs (like many PRO stringers in North America, he strings more tennis and squash racquets than badminton ones). Also, someone in my club mentioned that there's a special technique (proportional stringing?) for stringing at higher tension (<24lbs)... not sure if it's true but it certainly didn't give me more confidence in my stringer.

    Really appreciated your input, thanks!:)
     
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    I see ur point. If that's the case, "lack of confidence" in his service is understandable.

    The club member I metioned, his stringer is a pro badminton player, therefore, I am sure he gets much more experience in stringing badminton rackets. Therefore, that might be a different case.
     
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    cappy, going over ~25lbs safely depends more on the stringer than on the racquet. I surely dont remember each and every 'recommended' tension for all the racquets out there. Going for tensions less than 25lb aren't safe either if the racquet wasn't strung correctly. Peter Gade have his slim 10 strung at 32lbs, surely your cab 20ms can take 32 lbs, if it was done right. IMO, any current rackets can take 30+ lbs.
     
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    Yeah, Cooler... you got a point there. My stringer has been doing my racquets ever since I started four years ago. He's also the owner of a racquet shop that specialise more in squash and tennis than badminton. Only reason I went with him, beside being comfortable with his stringing, is his 30 days warranty for strings. I might be pushing alittle to have him extend his warranty to my racquet in case he breaks it while stringing. Anything below 24lbs is definitely doable for him... but if I am to go higher, it'll have to be someone else with more baddy experience than him. Already I have found issue with his stringing when I had my other main racquet strung at 24lbs. So it'll definitely have to be someone else:(

    Sadly there's not many Pro stringers I know who have badminton experience as well. Stringers I know with baddy experience, won't have any warranty against breakage because they string racquets as a sideline business.

    Anyways, it looks like I will have to keep faith and trust my racquet to one of those baddy player stringers. Thanks again for commenting!:)
     
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    Wow!! 30day warranty?? that's great! If I use BG85, even at 22x24 or 21x23, i'll break the strings (in the center, due to wear&tear) after only two weeks! for me that'd be a great deal, haha.
     
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    30 days? I guess he got his "experience" from tennis racket. Or, he only apply this for badminton string, which is .80mm+? :D

    I mean, for string like BG66, even weak ppl like me can get it done within a month or 2, so, 30 days seems a "great risk" for badminton stringer. Plus, say, someone "abuse" (hard playing for 10+ hrs per wk) for 3 weeks, once string getting loose, cut it (or on purposely damage it) then come back to claim a free re-service, what he will do?

    Personally, I think stringers should not be responsible for relatively fast string damage, unless player only used it for like 20 min or so. Even some players claim they breaks string within 2 wks, but god knows how hard s/he could hit, how many hours s/he playing (I know some players consistently playing 20+ hrs per week).

    Overall, stringers and players should have the "trust" but not a written time period of warranty.
     
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    If the deal is too good to be true... it is. Either that or it comes with many conditions;) The stringer has the final authority on whether to apply the warranty or not based on the observed conditions of the returned string. Heck, at one point he even offered a chronic stringbreaker's deal... don't know if it's still on. He may not have much experience on badminton specifically, but he is an experienced stringer. I am sure he could tell if someone is trying to rip him off by cutting the string and claiming that it broke. Anyway, I never had the chance to claim the warranty since my strings usually break after the warranty period.

    A friend told me before how to tell who's fault it is when the string break. Depending where it breaks, usually it is the player's fault if the string breaks nowhere near the center/sweet spot. The stringer might take that into account.
     
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    Heh! Yeah, too bad you're in the wrong part of the country to take advantage of it:D Also, you may have to take into account that he might not do tension higher than 24lbs. When I first approached him to string my Victor Satellite II at 22lbs, he was really apprehensive about it. Probably he would not have added the warranty had I not specify a durable string (BG70 PRO).

     
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    Experiment with BG 80

    Final visit to my stringer: I had my CAB 20MS racquet strung at 22lbsM and 24lbsC (main and cross middle 10 strings) with proportional tensioning (1lbs less on the peripheral strings). Additional grommet tubes installed in the middle 10 main strings for added protection. String of choice in this case is a BG 80. First game trial with it went relatively well with minimal "breaking in" effect. Drop shots were very consistent... smash and drives remained unchanged with no noticeable reduction... clears seems to be going out most of the time though, maybe it's my timing. I will comment further in a month or so about the durability.
     
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    G'day,

    I strung all my Cab20,21,22,23 up to 24+lbs, proportionally strung, without any problems. I did a Cab10SP last night straight (at request of customer - without proportional stringing) at 22lbs and it ended up feeling closer to 25lbs! And yes the racket survived without any dramas.

    Anyway what I'd like to know is the "grommet tube" that your stringer installed on your racket for extra protection - what is it and does it work?
     
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    it acts like a jacket protectiong the string (usually the three grommet pairs on the top) from scratching and to provide extra cushioning in additon to the regular grommets.
     
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    grommet tubings

    I had all ten middle main strings installed. They won't make much weight bias if you're thinking of making your racquets head heavy with them. I had the tubings installed because my strings always break or frayed at one of those points. Could be too much hit near the frame, but also could be due to picking up shuttles with my racquet.
     

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