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    Quote Originally Posted by smashmaniac View Post
    to me the world championship itself must be contended from the very best of the best. if the lin dan itself fail to justify his presence at WC (in the other word, by its current form i dont think that he is able to beat Chen Long, Du Pengyu, Chen Jin, Wang Zhengming or even Gao Han) so be it. What matter most is the current performance.
    I know what you mean but that's not the point I'm trying to make. Like you I don't rate Lin Dan's chances very high and actually place him below Lee CW and Chen Long in that order, and perhaps even behind one dark horse.

    The important thing is for the eventual champion to emerge from among the best of the best which of course include the defending champion,regardless of his form.

    The reason why I think Lee CW is the top contender with a slight edge over Chen Long is because it will be their third consecutive meeting and even Lin Dan didn't beat Lee CW more than 3 out of 4 times on average in a year, statistically speaking. That's what it appears to me on paper, needless to say, anything can still happen; remember WC 2010 won by Chen Jin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    then why zhang ning cannot automatically qualify for 2016 rio OG?
    2012 or 2016 OG ? ZN won it in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    BWF said they will not offer LD a wild card if he is not qualified to WC via world ranking.
    I agree. I cannot imagine the "earthquake" in BC if BWF offer L D a wild card, and finally he wins the fifth titles in Guangzhou next August

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune View Post
    2012 or 2016 OG ? ZN won it in 2008.
    ops
    my bad.
    i mean 2012 OG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune View Post
    I agree. I cannot imagine the "earthquake" in BC if BWF offer L D a wild card, and finally he wins the fifth titles in Guangzhou next August
    this is one of the most interesting post in this thread so far, at least to my personal opinion.

    but whether LD would be able to compete in WC or not, just wait for the truth later. no need to speculate now, just wasting energy typing all those posts. afterall, i think none of us can predict what CBA will or won't do?

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    I'm not too optimistic but realistically speaking, based on what I've gathered, CBA is being sensible and wise not to continue to be over-reliant on Lin Dan to deliver the goods. A while ago after Lin Dan returned to the national training centre, Li Yongbo has already openly said he does not set any goals for Lin Dan from then on - that casual remark should tell us something.

    Furthermore, both LYB and LD as I've said have tacitly indicated they are unwilling to forgo two players to make way for LD, rightly so, which means since there's no wild card granted for LD so he's out of the WC. Unless you tell me what's reported in the news media cannot be taken at face value, that I'm inclined to agree though I'm just reading between the lines.

    Nonetheless, I won't rule out the possibility of the big-time sponsors making a last-ditched effort to appeal to the BWF and at the same time persuade CBA to change their minds. Well, maybe we should listened to bad's fan's advice and just wait.

    Lastly, it has come to my knowledge that for the 2014 Thomas/Uber Cups to be held in New Delhi, the host nation automatically gets a spot in the finals, not to mention the defending champion, China.

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    BWF has changed the rule for TC/UC, no more qualifying round. All teams go straight to finals if they qualify by world ranking points.

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    Off topic: The World Chess Championship Candidates just ended yesterday after 14 grueling rounds of play by eight super grandmasters in a double round-robin contest to see who emerges as the challenger for a world championship match against the reigning world champion. Note that the defending world champion didn't have to play in the candidates tournament at all, he simply fold his arms and wait for the candidates to 'kill' each other to see who gets the right to play him for the world title. In the end,my fave 22-yr-old Norwegian Magnus Carlsen qualified on tie-break (of more wins being decisively in his favour) from my other fave Russian Vladimir Kramnik.

    Mind you,a multi-game chess match is a very tough mental contest that can take its physical toll. In the words of the late ex-world champion, Tigran Petrosian, a chess match which in his time comprised the best of 24 games can take a year off one's life !

    To think BWF won't even grant the reigning world champion automatic qualification right when he still has to play round after round all the way to the final.

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    maybe we just need to face it, Justin. BWF maybe just can't take chess rules as part of their rules. even if BWF will do, i think we can't expect them to do it this year maybe?

    still, LD still has that chance though. the only way left for him now is depend on CBA's decision (after monitoring his performance when he comeback i think?) afterall, even if i myself really want to see him in 2013 WC, the decision is not ours to make. so let's just wait and see what will happen, which players will compete for the title, and who will emerge as the WC in the end of battles.
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    looking at the latest points for the MS again, it's really hard push for LYB to select LD and leave out two top 10 players, Du PY and Wang ZM.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    updated on 08/04/2013 to incl Australia results;

    MS top 24
    Code:
    Rank
    Country Player Points No of Tournaments
    1 Malaysia LEE Chong Wei 89300 10
    2 China CHEN Long 88670 10
    3 China DU Pengyu 62916 11
    4 Indonesia Sony Dwi KUNCORO 61230 14
    5 Hong Kong HU Yun 57380 15
    6 Denmark Jan O JORGENSEN 54497 12
    7 Japan Kenichi TAGO 53000 14
    8 Vietnam Tien Minh NGUYEN 51770 13
    9 India PARUPALLI Kashyap 51240 13
    10 China WANG Zhengming 49970 10
    11 Thailand Boonsak PONSANA 49510 16
    12 Malaysia Daren LIEW 47767 15
    13 Malaysia Wei Feng CHONG 47480 15
    14 Japan Sho SASAKI 47403 12
    15 Hong Kong WONG Wing Ki 46660 16
    16 Indonesia Tommy SUGIARTO 45720 13
    17 Denmark Hans-Kristian VITTINGHUS 45342 13
    18 Japan Takuma UEDA 44994 15
    19 Chinese Taipei CHOU Tien Chen 43440 18
    20 China CHEN Jin 41923 8
    21 Germany Marc ZWIEBLER 40924 10
    22 Denmark Viktor Axelsen 40423 12
    23 Indonesia Simon SANTOSO 39273 6
    24 Indonesia Dionysius Hayom RUMBAKA 37412 10
    And the decision needed to be made by the 2nd Thursday of May with only next week's BAC to judge LD's match form.

    LYD did made some unorthodox decisions and came up trumps before, not long to wait now.

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    If Lin Dan is absent, it will be a very SAD World Championship without the best player participated, regardless what form he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY

    LYD did made some unorthodox decisions and came up trumps before, not long to wait now.
    i think his name should be LYB instead of LYD, right?

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    lindan say its better to be not qualified than lost in embarrassment of not fully match fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    lindan say its better to be not qualified than lost in embarrassment of not fully match fit
    Very unlike Lee Chong Wei is it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    looking at the latest points for the MS again, it's really hard push for LYB to select LD and leave out two top 10 players, Du PY and Wang ZM.

    And the decision needed to be made by the 2nd Thursday of May with only next week's BAC to judge LD's match form.

    LYD did made some unorthodox decisions and came up trumps before, not long to wait now.
    LYB's biggest desire is OG, so sacrifying 1 WC to let more younger players to expose to more WCs could be his preference...

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    Waiting to see the "earthquake" as King LD is back on WC in Aug. 2013So Happy today!

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    Now LD has confirmed he accepted the wild card offered by Bwf, let's spectculate as how the draw going to work out. Assuming they will seperate players from the same country as most big t'ments always trying to do. CHN now has 4 MS in the draw, Chen Long and LCW will be in the opposite halve. The next 2 MS (DPY and WZM) will also be placed into opposite halve. Now CL's halve will have 2 MS from China and LCW with 1.

    Here comes the bad news. It's only possible to place LD in LCW's halve otherwise we will have 3 Chn's players in the same halve.

    So, based on that we will not have a LD and LCW final, SF at best!

    I bet this is all LYB (not LYD) been planning along!
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