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    Dutch Team diary - Part 1

    The European Championship for national mixed teams begins on Tuesday in Russian Ramenskoe. The Netherlands is joining the party and play in the group stage against Hungary, Luxembourg and Switzerland. International Jorrit de Ruiter maintains a diary from Russia. Read part 1 below.

    "Sunday morning 04.00h. and the alarm sounds. The first app by Selena in the team groupchat [whatsapp] signals the day to come: "honestly, this is crap".

    All in all the two flights, apart from a relaunch in Vienna, went smoothly. Once in Moscow the fun began. The bus driver, tasked with bringing us and some other countries to the hotel, supposedly comes from Siberia and has the mind of a paramecium. He drives us, in a bus held together with scotch tape, across the most obscure snow covered country roads. Several times we almost tipped over and we come to a standstill. The dirt covered windows obstruct our view and even the driver starts having trouble with his view. Solution: get out, make a huge snowball, throw it against the windshield and let the wipers do the rest!

    After a three hour drive, supposedly 45 minutes on TomTom beforehand, we arrive at the place of destination: the super luxury Hilton of Ramenskoe, Saturn Hotel. To make a long story short, we have survived the first night and are about to go practice. Tomorrow at 10:00 we play against Luxembourg."

    http://www.badminton.nl/nieuws/topba...zware_heenreis
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    ^ Hahaha Petr Koukal said something similar about the quality of the hotel, or rather lack of qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ton-Min-Bad View Post
    ^Baun and Jorgensen are listed as players though...
    A lot of players are always entered just to have option of choosing at the last moment instead of at the deadline of entry. Not all countries can afford to take a big squad and results at the national championships can be a decider on who to take or who won the spot.
    But Denmark always send the backups first for the group stage and add a few of their best in the knockouts but as per the article Uhre is keeping it a secret who the reinforcements will be. First matches should give us a good clue. But if you have already stated these two will not come it would be a sign of weakness to fly them over anyway ...

    Here is the actual squad list for the moment (so no backups this time around, probably too costly all the way to Russia instead of Holland; figured they would play Kjaersfeldt WS rather than Karina Jorgensen. Rohde also in the ws talent project):

    Men:
    Viktor Axelsen, Odense OBK
    Mathias Boe, Odense OBK
    Rasmus Bonde, Aarhus AB
    Mads Conrad-Petersen, Skovshoved IF
    Carsten Mogensen, Skovshoved IF
    Joachim Fischer Nielsen, Skælskør Badminton Club
    Hans-Kristian Vittinghus, Skælskør Badminton Club

    Women:
    Kamilla Rytter Juhl, Greve Badminton Club
    Line Kjærsfeldt, Aarhus AB
    Line Kruse, Gentofte Badminton Club
    Chris Pedersen, Greve Badminton Club
    Natalia Koch Rohde, Skovshoved IF
    Marie Røpke, Gentofte Badminton Club
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    Explanation by coach Uhre is more or less that Jan is the most experienced of the three being the #1 stand in for Gade in the past and this is a good opportunity for the other two to gain some more experience and a chance for Jan to grab some rest towards AE. Same for Tine and as she will retire after the AE and not be part of the Sudirman squad, this is a good time for the successors to grab some experience towards that.

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    Anybody knows what happened to Wales? On tournamentsoftware it says "walkover".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ton-Min-Bad View Post
    Anybody knows what happened to Wales? On tournamentsoftware it says "walkover".
    They withdrew last week, I think it was due to travel arrangements

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    Schenk is playing WD again
    love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Hehe, indeed. They can compete with Germany for the opportunity to challenge Denmark . England cannot be ruled out either, depends on who actually make the trip for Denmark with so many withdrawals at their national championship this week (maybe as precaution?).
    Russia is simply at a weak state now even if they are playing at home ...
    Sorokina and Vislova on a good day could definetely challenge Christinna and Camilla, although there is a question mark for this team's form. Vladimir Ivanov beat Jan O Jorgensen in straight sets in their latet meeting in Korea this year. And who can be sure of Tine's mental and physical form these days as she is on the verge of retirement? Russia has advantage of the home court and with some luck and help from circumstances they could score a miracle win over Denmark. At least I think they are a bigger threat than Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyJT View Post
    Schenk is playing WD again
    love it
    A very tactical line up, it seems!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vixter View Post
    Sorokina and Vislova on a good day could definetely challenge Christinna and Camilla, although there is a question mark for this team's form. Vladimir Ivanov beat Jan O Jorgensen in straight sets in their latet meeting in Korea this year. And who can be sure of Tine's mental and physical form these days as she is on the verge of retirement? Russia has advantage of the home court and with some luck and help from circumstances they could score a miracle win over Denmark. At least I think they are a bigger threat than Germany.
    Based on what exactly . Sorokina-Vislova head-to-head is 0-2 with the following scorelines 6-21 10-21 & 9-21 12-21 and that was in their good period ...
    Against Kruse-Roepke they are 0-1 22-20 13-21 21-12 with a stole from behind first set.
    Ivanov was a fluke victory and Jorgensen is not there it turns out so an opportunity now with HKV and Axelsen underperforming at their national championship. Tine would destroy any of their WS, like she did at the Danish championships, but turns out now she will not even be there either so another opportunity has opened.

    MS Ivanov/Malkov vs HKV/Axelsen
    WS Diehl/Prok vs Kjaersfeldt
    MD Ivanov-Sozonov vs Boe-Mogensen
    WD Sorokina-Vislova vs Juhl-Pedersen
    XD Ivanov/Sozonov-Sorokina vs Fischer-Pedersen

    But let's not forget the SF will be vs Germany first:

    MS Ivanov/Malkov vs Zwiebler
    WS Diehl/Prok/Perm vs Schenk/Konon
    MD Ivanov-Sozonov vs Kindervater-Schoettler
    WD Sorokina-Vislova vs Goliszewski/Schenk-Michels
    XD Ivanov/Sozonov-Sorokina vs Fuchs-Michels
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    While we're at it SF Denmark vs England

    MS HKV/Axelsen vs Ouseph
    WS Kjaersfeldt vs Walker
    MD Boe-Mogensen vs Adcock-Ellis
    WD Juhl-Pedersen vs Smith-White (Wallwork-White?)
    XD Fischer-Pedersen vs Adcock/White? Langridge/Olver?

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    No surprises on opening day
    Date: 2/12/2013

    http://www.badmintoneurope.com/cms/d...39&pageid=5381

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    Germany’s Marc Zwiebler was put under some early pressure from Estonia’s Raul Must before the European Champion eventually prevailed in three games. “It was a long days travelling yesterday and I was not feeling too good on court today. But I knew Raul would run and run so I just stayed focused to get the win” said Zwiebler.

    Germany introduced Juliane Schenk in the final women’s doubles after utilising the versatile Olga Konon at singles. Schenk, only back from Indonesian league duty, showed no ill effects of her exhaustive travel schedule in taking the match alongside partner Johanna Goliszewski to give the Germans their first clean sweep.

    Denmark entered the fray in the evening session and never had to extend themselves to destroy near neighbours Norway. Natalia Koch Rhode made her senior debut at women’s singles and the Danes anchored by Rasmus Bonde and Line Kjaersfeldt who made two appearances each sent out a clear message to their nearest challengers that they still are the team to be beaten.

    ...The only blip on the English copy book was Sarah Walkers first set loss to Ieva Pope. The new English national champion settle her nerves to bounce back to win in three to set England up nicely ahead of their clash with Lithuania.

    In two of the most eagerly anticipated ties of the round Ireland destroyed Finland 4-1 with Scott Evans continuing the good run of form that saw him win two circuit tournaments in the past two months.

    “It was always going to be 50/50 in my match against Ville Lang so I was pleasantly surprised with the way I beat him. The rest of the team performed well and this will give us great confidence in what should be a group shoot out against France” said Scott Evans to Badminton Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ton-Min-Bad View Post
    A very tactical line up, it seems!
    It is said that Birgit is not 100% fit. So the German line up might not have been as tactical as I thought.

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    Without Tine Baun, obviously the weakest link of DEN team is WS.

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    The line up of Spain against Estonia is also kind of interesting...

    XD
    Pablo Abian
    Carolina Marin

    MS
    Ernesto Velazquez

    WS
    Beatriz Corrales

    MD
    Ernesto Velazquez
    Pablo Abian

    WD
    Beatriz Corrales
    Carolina Marin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ton-Min-Bad View Post
    The line up of Spain against Estonia is also kind of interesting...

    XD
    Pablo Abian
    Carolina Marin

    MS
    Ernesto Velazquez

    WS
    Beatriz Corrales

    MD
    Ernesto Velazquez
    Pablo Abian

    WD
    Beatriz Corrales
    Carolina Marin
    What is "interesting" about it? Beatriz is more than capable of taking the WS match, the rest is to have your best players form the best doubles. Must could have possibly beaten Abian anyway so sacrifice the MS and aim for the XD and MD ...
    (Estonia is not as strong as a few years ago anymore anyway)

    Maybe these are the only players for Spain that made the trip

    Just looked it up: "Bajo la dirección técnica de Anders Thomsen, hasta la ciudad rusa se han desplazado Carolina Marín y Beatriz Corrales por el lado femenino y Pablo Abián y Ernesto Velázquez por parte masculina"
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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    What is "interesting" about it? Beatriz is more than capable of taking the WS match, the rest is to have your best players form the best doubles. Must could have possibly beaten Abian anyway so sacrifice the MS and aim for the XD and MD ...
    (Estonia is not as strong as a few years ago anymore anyway)

    Maybe these are the only players for Spain that made the trip

    Just looked it up: "Bajo la dirección técnica de Anders Thomsen, hasta la ciudad rusa se han desplazado Carolina Marín y Beatriz Corrales por el lado femenino y Pablo Abián y Ernesto Velázquez por parte masculina"
    Interesting from a German point of view maybe...

    I'm pretty sure that their line up will be a little bit different against Germany tomorrow.

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