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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    Big money, but unfairly distributed.

    There seems a salary cap at $275k. There are 5 matches. Therefore, to win a competition, the winner team has to take 3 wins. Which implies that one single player should be not paid more than 90k, otherwise, it will definitely hurt the team.

    Lee CW's 125k and Saina's 120k are too much. Especially too many Women's singles got paid too much: Juliane Schenk 90,000; Sindhu 80,000; ...

    If i'm the team manager, I will hire someone like Lee YD, or even retired Chinese player Zheng Bo, who can play both men's double and mixed double, bringing 2 victories to the team.

    Anyway, it's a market economy, supply and demand.

    By the way, there's none world champion, olympic champion at all; neither current or former champion. Is an local India player never heard of internationally, more marketable than a world champion ?
    Ofcourse. Nobody here knows anybody except few familiar names such as LCW and Taufik Hidayat. And also, we have been discussing this for long time since IBL is formed and So many interested articles has been published and many discussions and explainations were given by some of our BC members such as @depleter , @cobalt and myself regarding the same. So, i request you to look into those things if you have any doubts regarding this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    Just by winning, how much money would you get..
    According to details..there are only two prize moneys..
    Winner gets $650,000
    Runner gets $350,000 and the rest gets none..
    Will these prizes be shared with team members or entirely team managers' ?

    if players got paid upfront, what are the motivations for their to win ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    Will these prizes be shared with team members or entirely team managers' ?

    if players got paid upfront, what are the motivations for their to win ?
    Well..IPL has a mandate that at least half of the prize money should go to the players.....may be IBL too.But it wasn't mentioned any where...

    Well, the motivation will be to get a higher price in the next auction...the better you perform...the higher your price will be in the next auction...as simple as that...but the contract is still unclear though...In IPL they have a 3 years contract....so a player will go the auction every three years..

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    Well..IPL has a mandate that at least half of the prize money should go to the players.....may be IBL too.But it wasn't mentioned any where...

    Well, the motivation will be to get a higher price in the next auction...the better you perform...the higher your price will be in the next auction...as simple as that...but the contract is still unclear though...In IPL they have a 3 years contract....so a player will go the auction every three years..
    thanks for the updates. Players performance mostly related to the past 3 months, none care about 1 year ago performance. Where's Chen Jin and Lee Huan Il, who in the Olympics last year?

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    Let me tell you that IBL did not tell everything about the contract details to players...I know that as agent was there and asked one of INA players to sign ( independent players) and it revealed that each players has to play 2 seasons and they players can opt not to play the 2 nd season but it was not written at all...also you can not increase the fee..basically IBL can replace you anytime...I can tell you that many players just signed as the contract is quite thick to go thru....

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    Default India gears up for new million-dollar badminton event



    By Kuldip Lal | AFP News 19 hours ago


    Badminton takes a leap into the unknown on Wednesday, when a new franchise-based team event with innovative rules aimed at drawing bigger crowds opens in India.

    The million-dollar Indian Badminton League (IBL), trumpeted as the sport's richest event, will be played over a fortnight between six city teams, using a more attacking style of play designed to excite the fans.

    But the event has suffered several blows even before the first shuttle has been hit, with Malaysian superstar Lee Chong Wei, the league's top draw and the world number one, under an injury cloud.

    The standard two-point gap to win a game has been abandoned in favour of a race to 21 points for the first two games and 11 points for the decider, if needed. (I'm not sure how BWF takes to this?)

    There will also be a minute's commercial break after the seventh and 14th points in the first two games and after the sixth point in the decider.

    "The IBL is definitely the best thing to happen to Indian badminton," Indian great Prakash Padukone said.

    "Badminton has not seen this kind of money before," the former All-England champion said. (Not true as posted in the other thread. But it is true that the "overpaid" local players have not seen this kind of money before.)

    "It will add to the popularity of the sport, besides bringing in more money for the players. A lot would, however, depend on the success of the inaugural event."

    The success of popular franchised-based Twenty20 cricket competitions around the world have also inspired copy-cat events in hockey, golf, football and tennis.

    Badminton teams, owned by businesses and individuals, forked out thousands of dollars at an auction last month to buy players from India and around the world for the league.
    Each team, comprising four foreign players, six Indians and one upcoming Indian junior, will play on a home-and-away basis in the preliminary league, with the top four qualifying for the semi-finals.

    All ties, including the August 31 final in Mumbai, will have five matches -- two men's singles, and one each in women's singles, men's doubles and mixed doubles.

    "Matches will become more competitive and open with these new rules," said former Indian coach Vimal Kumar. "They will help those who have an attacking game."

    Former India cricket captain Sunil Gavaskar, a keen badminton enthusiast, is linked to the Mumbai franchise which will play against teams from Pune, Lucknow, Delhi, Bangalore and Hyderabad.

    But the IBL lost much of its sheen when badminton's powerhouse China declined to send its players. Other stars like newly-crowned women's world champion Ratchanok Intanon of Thailand are also missing.

    Malaysia's Lee remains uncertain of playing the entire fortnight after being forced to withdraw from Sunday's world championship final against Lin Dan of China.

    Lin was a point away from victory at 16-21, 21-13, 20-17 when Lee conceded the match due to severe leg cramps and had to be stretchered off the court in China's Guangzhou.

    The IBL received a boost thanks to the success of Indian players in Guangzhou where teenager P.V. Sindhu won a bronze medal and Saina Nehwal and Parupalli Kashyap made it to the quarter-finals.

    Nehwal, the women's world number three, was bought by her home team of Hyderabad for $120,000, second only to the $135,000 paid for Lee by Gavaskar's Mumbai franchise.

    Sindhu, a Hyderabadi like Nehwal, will play for Lucknow for $80,000, while Kashyap was picked up by Bangalore for $75,000.

    "I am not surprised the focus is on Sindhu and Saina," said former national women's champion Ami Ghia Shah. "They deserve all the money and attention they can get."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post

    "Badminton has not seen this kind of money before," the former All-England champion said. (Not true as posted in the other thread. But it is true that the "overpaid" local players have not seen this kind of money before.)
    Well...I am sorry...I can't understand what you are saying though...
    "Badminton has not seen this kind of money before," ...well...that's true.....I can't understand how you are trying to prove it wrong...unless CBL comes forward ad shows that they have got more money in offering

    All you said in that thread is that we don't know how sponsors pay for other leagues...lol..it's the same for IBL too.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    Well...I am sorry...I can't understand what you are saying though...
    "Badminton has not seen this kind of money before," ...well...that's true.....I can't understand how you are trying to prove it wrong...unless CBL comes forward ad shows that they have got more money in offering

    All you said in that thread is that we don't know how sponsors pay for other leagues...lol..it's the same for IBL too.....
    No, that's not what I said.

    What I said is that the IBL is not the richest badminton event as trumpeted time and again. And I have mentioned the Axiata Cup and the Korea Open SS tournaments which offered US$1 million in prize money even before the IBL.

    So I hope I don't have to repeat again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    No, that's not what I said.

    What I said is that the IBL is not the richest badminton event as trumpeted time and again. And I have mentioned the Axiata Cup and the Korea Open SS tournaments which offered US$1 million in prize money even before the IBL.

    So I hope I don't have to repeat again.
    Well...you will never get to the point what they are saying if you only consider prize money....And that's what I said in that thread too...Players get paid away from the prize money and that's considered here....If you don't want to see it...then I will stop the argument here...

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    Any word on where is this being telecast on TV/Internet?

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    Heheh.. They have a Fastest Smash of the Day recorder: http://www.indianbadmintonleague.co/smash-o-meter/

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    Quote Originally Posted by depleter View Post
    Well...you will never get to the point what they are saying if you only consider prize money....And that's what I said in that thread too...Players get paid away from the prize money and that's considered here....If you don't want to see it...then I will stop the argument here...
    What else do you expect me to see if the official figure has been given?

    To dig through the contracts, which some said were not exactly transparent and contain questionable disparities or hidden conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    What else do you expect me to see if the official figure has been given?

    To dig through the contracts, which some said were not exactly transparent and contain questionable disparities or hidden conditions?
    He he.. If CBSL does not have anything transparent, then definitely IBL is doing much much much better in all terms..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion1 View Post
    He he.. If CBSL does not have anything transparent, then definitely IBL is doing much much much better in all terms..
    I'm not talking about CSBL, so don't try to divert attention again and again.

    Find out more about CSBL if you have to bring them into intelligent discussion without trying to cast doubt and disrepute. In any case they have been there long before your IBL, a new startup whose future is uncertain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdidoo View Post
    Any word on where is this being telecast on TV/Internet?
    espn and star sports 2 , anyone can find the live stream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangkwokhau View Post
    Let me tell you that IBL did not tell everything about the contract details to players...I know that as agent was there and asked one of INA players to sign ( independent players) and it revealed that each players has to play 2 seasons and they players can opt not to play the 2 nd season but it was not written at all...also you can not increase the fee..basically IBL can replace you anytime...I can tell you that many players just signed as the contract is quite thick to go thru....
    I can't understand what you are trying to say though....You are saying the contract was quite thick, so players didn't even go through...and again the option about 2nd season was not written at all..
    Well..lets leave it..And according to your data, this is a 2 season contract unlike IPL's 3 years contract..So basically every player will go through the auction every 2 years....So basically the price changes every 2 years...And well IBL replacing you anytime...I don't think IBL will take player out without any reason....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    What else do you expect me to see if the official figure has been given?

    To dig through the contracts, which some said were not exactly transparent and contain questionable disparities or hidden conditions?
    lol.And that's what I am saying to you too... THE OFFICIAL FIGURE..


    It is the official figure they announced that they will pay same as the prize money was announced....Unlike the prize money in other tournaments where you have to win.....here the money will be in your pockets if you just make yourself available....
    And I can't understand...so you are fighting with me that IBL can't even pay half the amount out of the auctioned amount...???


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