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05-14-2013, 02:33 AM #35
That depends on your preferences. I like feedback, and I've never been in the position where I've thought "This is too much". A stiffer racket should naturally give more feedback, but there are many other factors involved too.
05-14-2013, 01:06 PM #36
quixilver as you mentioned about the shock absorption I find the same problem in many other smaller manufacturers, there is something to said for good shock absorption when you are playing a lot, especially awkward miss/hits.
Kwun could you please comment on this as well, I am really interested in trying out either this or the adiprecision or the adizero.
05-14-2013, 03:30 PM #37
different brands have different feel.
Yonex's have more aggressive shock absorption. the good thing is that you don't get a lot of vibration, the bad thing is that every shot will feel dull and muted.
Victor and Adidas both have more direct feel, you can better feel the impact of the shuttle, the extra feedback is good for control, but at the same time, some people may feel that it is too much. i personally like to feel the feedback.
it is up to you and your personal preference which one you prefer.
as for the variation within the Adidas line, Precision Pro has a nice balance and also seem to have more shock absorption than other Adidas that i have tried. a more damped and muted feel, closer to Yonex. you may want to give that a consideration.
05-14-2013, 04:14 PM #38
I prefer the more direct feel as well. It makes you feel like you have way more control. It's probably why I like my Thruster so much compared to my Vt-80.
Would love to try the Adidas once it becomes more widely available and cheaper.
05-14-2013, 06:58 PM #39
I think the price for the pro is already stable
05-14-2013, 10:42 PM #40
It's just a matter of preference and I was just trying to speak out my own perspective while others may find their own differently, one man's meat might be another man's poison
Different models from the same manufacturer can be different as well, I remember Victor have their Shockless frame for their Sword lineup and Li Ning have DF Shock Absorption for their Mega Power series, etc. Probably Adidas have their own shock absorption technology for other models, one that kwun mentioned was Precision Pro.
Particularly for the Adipower Pro, I feel that the vibration is still a bit more obvious compared to the MX-JJS. It is on par with the MX80, if I remember correctly, and definitely a contrast from the Arcsaber and BS-LYD.
06-01-2013, 07:02 AM #41
I apologize if this is a silly question, how does this racket compare to a VTZF, which is my current racket of choice? Balance, Swing weight and Stiffness?
I would really like to try this racket as there are no local badminton stores in my area I only have to make my decision based on your feedback, which I really appreciate.
06-01-2013, 10:09 AM #42
06-01-2013, 02:57 PM #43
My Vt-ZF 88 dry is 315mm BP as well. But it is 3U. I'll have to weigh it to see how heavy it is.
06-05-2013, 08:16 AM #44
Adidas adipower pro Badminton Racket Review
I received an Adidas adizero pro Badminton Racket, courtesy of MBS ("Mybadmintonstore") for testing. This review will borrow Kwun's earlier review using common facts. In this review, I will adding my personal impressions.
Adidas is a newcomer to the badminton equipment scene. 2+ years in the planning Adidas is finally ready to reveal their badminton lineup to the world. The Adidas adipower series of badminton rackets are characterized by their offensive characteristics. Stiff powerful shaft combined with a head heavy feel is suitable for a powerful badminton player who would like to penetrate their opponent by attacking.
There are 4 models in the adipower series that are designated as “advanced pro” models, basically these are the cream of the crop of the adipowers and have the most technology and advanced materials behind them. The 4 models span a spectrum of heavy weight, balance and shaft stiffness to cover any top level offensive users’ requirements.
The adipower pro is rated as a stiff singles racket for power attacking player. The spec weight is 88g +/- 2g with a balance point of 293mm +/- 3mm. A unique reverse taper shaft (7.5mm near the T-joint tapering down to 7mm near the handle) rolled together with top quality Japanese made graphite give the racket it’s powerful designation.
Adidas incorporated some unique technology for the adipower pro’s racket head. A “Dual Force Frame” consist of both titanium mesh at the 4 corners and Zylon fibers to reinforce the frame structure. Zylon is a material made by Toyobo company in Japan and is supposed to be 1.6 times stronger than Kevlar. More Zylon is strategically place around the frame as part of the adipower pro’s “Vibration Control System”.
Structurally, the frame is a non-tapered frame that measure approximately 10.5mm in depth throughout. The top of the frame has some minor arches for string support.
Another unique feature is the 78 hole pattern. The Adidas 78 holes pattern is similar to the 76 hole pattern drilled into most modern badminton rackets. In addition to the 76 holes, an extra pair of non-shared holes is found in the 4/8 o’clock which makes it much easier for the stringer, as well as letting the engineers align the outermost main string to be completely parallel with the rest of the mains, resulting in a tidy and uniformly laid out main strings across the frame.
As with any modern rackets, single and double pass grommets are used in the appropriate locations to maximize frame strength.
The adipower pro has a black base color scheme with red and silver accents. The shaft is black with “adipower pro” near the cone and silvery lines running along the shaft. The asymmetric design of the head consist of the signature Adidas Triband in silver on one side of the racket and red accent running over the T joint and the other side of the racket. the name “adipower” occupies the top corner and the racket is finished with silvery mesh which depicts the Ti mesh embedded within.
A metallic texture handle cap encased in clear plastic is found in the other end and the whole racket completes with a cone that has pronounced flat surface for the thumb to rest during a drive or push. The Adidas logo is only subtly found on the cone and the handle base.
The quality of the finish is of quite high quality. The final finish is very uniform giving a high quality look to it. However, the design of the racket with many reflective components can pose a real challenge to the finish department. And it shows as some joint imperfections are present during the decal application of the triband area.
The overall simple, bold and elegant look give the racket a classic European look and a fresh departure from the more complex Yonex and Victor design. Where does the colour scheme put the racquet in the market segment? It looks sleek and ready for some serious business ready for the sophiscated and discerning user.
MBS kindly put a fresh set of strings in the raquet. I asked for white BG66 at 26lbs and it was strung using ECP. The racquet came with a one-piece stringing method and strings have a nice higher pitched 'ping'.
On the first practice swings going through the air, you can feel the weight towards the head of the racquet. It's quite apparent that this is a stiff racquet - I don't need to hit a shuttle to able to tell this.
Let's start by hitting the shuttle. Forehand drives give a nice solid feel on impact - I can tell I am getting a lot of solid mass behind the shuttle. Yet I do have to be a little careful. This is not the sort of racquet to use in doubles if you have a large swing. With a large follow through on the swing and head heavy combination, it's harder to bring the racquet head under control and be ready for the next drive coming back to you. What's the solution? I found it much easier if I shortened the backswing and shortened the followthrough. This requires more control using finger technique and wrist technique. For players who use their arms for drives, receiving slow shuttles are going to be fine. It's when the shuttles are coming quickly, then changing the racquet head and direction is going to be difficult.
Going on to clears, I get a nice solid weight behind the shuttle and it feels very satisfying to see the shuttle fly to the other end of the court.
Smashing was an area where I wasn't able to fully test the racquet due to Golfer's elbow. Doing some practice smashes, I work out the stiff shaft gives quite a lot of feeling in the response. I was concerned about possible vibration making the Golfer's elbow feel worse. This is not a racquet to use if you are prone to Golfer's elbow.
Netshots are not difficult to get the timing of. Of course some slight readjustment in my timing is required but this is really very slight.
Defensive shots were enjoyable to perform. For doubles return of smashes, a short backswing and follow through can still make the shuttle go high and to the back of the opponents court. Choking up the racquet handle will help even more.
I did try out the racquet on a few games of singles. What can I say? The racquet feels wonderful. I get nice feedback from the racquet when striking the shuttle. Half smashes and clip smashes are where I get good quality shots from the racquet. Did I mention the singles defensive shots? Very easy. I don't have to impart much forward motion to push the shuttle back. I can simply stick out the racquet head and the shuttle will bounce off the strings and back into court. Not much in the way of backswing required.
Who is this racquet suited for? It stands out for the players who like singles. It gives a good feel of the shuttle impact on the strings on shots all around the court. How about doubles players who might want to produce the "sonic boom"? Yes, this racquet will certainly help the sound and power but winning a game of doubles is not just about sonic booms. Midcourt drives and defence are just as important. Those doubles players who use a short short action on drives and defense are going to see the best results.
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06-23-2013, 03:09 PM #45
If it's not too much trouble, Kwun, can you briefly compare the Duoforce and the Pro for me? I'm on the fence about these.
07-04-2013, 01:56 PM #46
Received mine today. Strung with red ZM62 @ 24lbs. Stock weight with strings are 89g and BP is just under 304mm. Gripped with G09 and now wet weight is at 96g.
Can't wait to play with it. Hopefully Friday!
07-19-2013, 07:27 PM #47
I'm sorry, but the damping on the Adidas rackets is nothing like the Victors. It's somewhere between Yonex and Victor which in my mind is a good balance.
Having said that though, I was using the hybrid strings at pretty low tension so that could've contributed to the feel, but regardless, I can't see the Adipower Pro being anywhere near say an MX80 in terms of that clanging metallic feel the 80 (and 70) has.
07-19-2013, 07:36 PM #48
With ZM62, it's closer to Victor than it is to Yonex. Comparing with my Thrusters that is.
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