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03-18-2013, 04:57 AM #1
English. Important language
I've remarqued, that the most great players from China, or Korea, can't any words in English. I don't know why they don't learn some words or sentences. You're one of the best player and when you won a title, you just tell some words in your language....
I know, it's not easy to learn a new language, but when you just say some words, the fans love that. It doesn't matter, when you say some wrong words or when the sentences is not correct. We know what they mean, so that's ok. I think, it also represent your country much better than a dolmetscher.
I hope some chinese or korean guys here in the Forum could tell that to the professional players. Or maybe you have a reason, why they don't want to learn english or maybe a second language.
03-18-2013, 05:32 AM #2
Why don't you learn their language in order to know what they are talking? I am learning...
03-18-2013, 05:34 AM #3
We also learn Italian and Japanese when we are fond of their culture.
03-18-2013, 05:37 AM #4
Not like European, the Chinese education does not provide 2nd or 3rd language in their curriculum.
Same for Japanese, most of them just good at Japanese and not other language.
Coz these countries are not like India, Singapore and Hong Kong where they were used to be British colonies.
03-18-2013, 05:53 AM #5
I understand the OP's point of view. When you admire a player, you wish you could hear them speak or read their words in press clippings or on their fan page.
But when one's goals and whole day are taken up trying to be the best in the world at something, you can understand if they don't spend a lot of time on languages. Especially if they don't have the gift for languages, or grew up in a unilingual area like much of China and North America.
Personally I have realized my failings in French, Vietnamese and Cantonese, so I can easily forgive my hero, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, for not being fluent in English. (Darn you SDK!)
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03-18-2013, 06:00 AM #6
03-18-2013, 06:12 AM #7
03-18-2013, 06:30 AM #8
I don't have time for attending school or take a course, too bad. That's why I want to learn it online .
03-18-2013, 06:39 AM #9
03-18-2013, 07:36 AM #10
No, I don't want the basic's one, I want to master it fully .
It seems you know Chinese, would you mind to teach me patiently .
I hope someday I can speak Chinese.
Back to the topic, I think no one can force the top player (from China and Korea, or Japan) to speak English, however, it'll be much better if they can, for the good of the sport (to be more known globally) and themselves (if you are a top player, good looking, know how to speak English well enough, more money will follow next). One best example is Li Na.
But there are many reasons why most of them can't/won't speak English, if they invest (or "waste" ) their time to learn English, meaning they have to reduce their time for their families or for practicing badminton.
03-18-2013, 07:50 AM #11
03-18-2013, 08:16 AM #12
I appreciate your opinion and idea to learn new languages, however, the whole standpoint of yours is very biased and rooted in mis-understanding.
First of all, you mentioned that to learn English for the fans, then how many fans of badminton can speak English? and how many fans of badminton can speak Chinese? The fans who speak English are definitely outnumbered!
How many top players are ethnic Chinese? Not only all players from China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, and also most players from Malaysia, Singapore, even Indonesia are ethnic Chinese. The native English speaking players are also outnumbered!
Based on Chinese are more widely used not only in badminton fans, audience, viewers, spectators, but also used by the best players, then why did you ask all the players to learn Chinese? at least a few words.
But I didn't see any non Chinese speaking players even learned any Chinese words, and on the other hand, all the players are learning English, even though the levels for Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are not high.
The reason is also simple, the whole Asia, Africa, America (both north and south) had been colonized by Europeans, especially the Brits, EXCEPT China, Japan and Korea (Korea was occupied by China, then Japan). That's the reason those people have never had to learn English.
A good atmosphere should be the one let players talk using any languages as they want, Language is not a barrier for communication, but discrimination and bias are!
03-18-2013, 08:18 AM #13
03-18-2013, 08:29 AM #14
tennis, French Open. the umpire is speaking French instead of english. the tournament broadcast live to many countries, that is much more than badminton All England. why French? why not english?
what suetyan said is good. attend class is much better than learning online. have time for online learning, why no time for classes?
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03-18-2013, 08:40 AM #15
03-18-2013, 08:48 AM #16
Op has a point. For us, spectators, it would be nice. But other cultures other traditions. Someone already explained that they donīt learn a second language or at least not English (e.g. bc of the history Indians learn it).
For us Europeans English is the "common" language. It obv. differs from continent to continent. I donīt see why Chinese people should learn English expect they need it for business.
What I find damn annoying is that they donīt have good dolmetschers who can really translate what the stars have told. Surely some are nervous etc. but still that is the main problem as I see it.
03-18-2013, 09:36 AM #17
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