String Tension - Last Ever Thread From Me!

Discussion in 'Badminton String' started by iluvthesun, Nov 11, 2003.

  1. iluvthesun

    iluvthesun Regular Member

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    i have a feeling certain people will be yelling at me, anyhow...

    hi guys,

    i am about to get my ti10 but i haven't decided on the tension and string. could youz please tell me what tension/string you use on your ti10 for max power in smashes?

    and if you can, please be quick cos i am leaving in about four hours.

    cheers
     
  2. LazyBuddy

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    Once again, I don't think there's a common answer for "max". Various choices being brough up by different ppl.

    For your reference, here are several ones I strung for others:

    1. BG68Ti @ 22*24
    2. BG85 @ 22*24
    3. BG65Ti @ 21*23

    All 3 users claim his selection is the best for himself. So, that's why I brough up my 1st paragraph.
     
  3. iluvthesun

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    Thanks LazyBuddy. I have finally decided: bg68ti @ 23 lbs it is.

    btw does 22*24 mean 22 for main, 24 for cross? and it is worth doing proportional stringing with such a low(!) tension?
     
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    low tension? thats about average.
     
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    for intermediate, the tension should be between 21-24 lbs. the stronger you are, the higher the tension.
     
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    You can't really benefit from proportional stringing at this tension,you will need the middle strings at about 28lbs to get the full benefit (if any).

    I use 23lbs on AT700's and feel it OK for power and control

    Are you sure about the choice of string? The Ti strings are quite slippery when the shuttle hits off them.
     
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    28X26!! What I have on all my rackets now (the ones that can take them) :D
    Excellent power, and even better control when you need to place some darn precise shots
     
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    Hey guys you'd like this. I have mine strung at 30mains/32crosses. As an experiment my sringer who is certified by the stringers association and also strings at the Wimbledon tennis open suggested stringing the badminton racket at 28mains and 34crosses. I was dubious but went along with it and amazingly the pitch was the same as 30/32 but the feel was brilliant. He explained that by doing this the theory is that you spread the load around more evenly. I'm now converted and reading somewhere here on the forum I saw that Kim Dong Moon also requested quite an odd tension. Must be something in this; wish the official stringers at the opens would elaborate on the various requests they get.
     
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    1. Yeah. 22 for main, 24 for cross. This is the most common used combo for me, on my 2 point support machine using 4 knots method.

    2. 22*24 = about 23 overall, it's not low, for lots of club lvl players. If u r more into elite league, that might be a different story.

    3. I never did proportional string, but according to what I read, I think this is kinda low. Because, as the tension kept decreasing outward, the last pairs will end up below 20.
     
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    6 lbs in difference??? I mean, there are 22 pieces of string each way, 22*6 = 132 lb difference in total. Isn't that too much for a racket to handle? How he manage to keep the racket frame in shape then?
     
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    I've no idea how the racket didn't collapse. Must ask him more questions. One thing that I've come across is there are some stringers who can't string beyond 26/27lbs without the racket caving in. And this usually happens with the non-certified stringers. The rackets I use are mainly cab20sp and a mp100dk that I traded my Iso Slim10 with a Danish international who had BG80 at 33lbs!
     
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    Fully Proportional stringing is only good from 30 lbs and up. At lower tension 23 lbs to 29 lbs, one might consider semi-proportional stringing. Take the following examples as a demonstration:

    Note: Main Tension < Cross Tension by 1 lb

    Example #1
    Racquet Type: Iso
    Stringing Machine: Six-Point Mount
    Requested Tension: 23 lbs
    Main: Middle 10 Main @ 23 lbs, the rest @ 22 lbs
    Cross: Middle 10 Cross @ 24 lbs, the rest @ 23 lbs

    Example #2
    Racquet Type: Iso
    Stringing Machine: Six-Point Mount
    Requested Tension: 26 lbs
    Main: Middle 10 Main @ 26 lbs, the rest @ 24 lbs
    Cross: Middle 10 Cross @ 27 lbs, the rest @ 25 lbs

    Example #3
    Racquet Type: Iso
    Stringing Machine: Six-Point Mount
    Requested Tension: 29 lbs
    Main: Middle 8 Main @ 29 lbs, the next 4 @ 27 lbs, the next 4 @ 25 lbs, the rest @ 23 lbs
    Cross: Middle 8 Cross @ 30 lbs, the next 4 @ 28 lbs, the next 4 @26 lbs, the rest @ 24 lbs

     
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    pete, you PT freak :p
     
  14. Pete LSD

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    Ha ha, after so many screwed up string jobs in Vancouver who wouldn't.
     
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    Some stringers told me that add 1~2lb at cross is damaged to rackets. I also search in the forum. Some posts say the cross tension have to be lower than main if using four or six-point mount. Since you ever string your rackets at 29 lbs or above. May you share the experiences with me? The informations is very important for me. Because I can't find any stores willing to stringing the rackets above 26 lbs, I may string my rackets in the future. thanks........:)
     
  16. Pete LSD

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    Actually, you are correct that the cross shouldn't be that tight if stringing is done on a six-point mount machine, but the majority of people still follow 1 to 2 lbs on cross conventional. The whole point of proportional stringing method is to keep tension per unit length constant on all main and cross strings. Having said that, what Mr. Lok did on the third trial to lower tension on Kim Dong Moon's racquet was correct. He strung it at 27 lbs main and 22 cross. Main tension per unit length is about the same as cross tension per unit length. But remember that Mr. Lok's machine is special made with a mold attachment that is far more supportive than a regular six-point mount machine. Therefore, he could string the cross much lower than the main without affecting the shape of the racquet.
     
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    What suited Kim DM might not be suitable for other players...unless you have the skill and strokes of Kim Dong Moon.

    So, the upshot is, it's all guesswork for each and individual player.
     
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    Thanks for your reply. According to your experiences, the cross tension should be 1~2 lbs above main without affecting the shape of the racket even with six-point mount machine, right?
     
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    After having heard the term so much in BF, I have finally grasped the concept of "proportional stringing". Thanks Pete! BTW, one question: someone mentioned in another thread that it's not advisable to start at the first middle grommet when doing proportional or even semi-proportional stringing, which grommet should one start?

    Ming
     
  20. Pete LSD

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    Usually but not always, one extra lb on the cross is sufficient to retain the original shape of the racquet on six-point mount machine.

     

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