Has anyone had a chance to compare these two head to head? I currently have VTZF 3U (for a month) and find myself struggling with it a bit. My feel is that it sort of lacks the agility a bit, even in singles play. I had a chance to hold Voltric 80 and 70 in a shop - I liked the feel of 80 a lot, a lighter feel, than my ZF. Voltric 70, on the other hand, felt worse in my hand, so it's out of the question. I don't have a chance to play VT80, so the question for me is - should i restring my VTZF 3U and try to adjust more to it or should I buy VT80 3U instead and sell VTZF later?
Forgot to mention, my frustration with VTZF had me buy an Arcsaber 7 - I really like its maneuverability, but the deficit of smashing power bothers me sometimes.
In theory I think something like Li-ning N55 would be perfect for me, but i don-t have a chance even to hold it and they cost 1.5 times more than yonex here.
VZTF is slightly stiffer and head heavier, but just as fast due to smaller frame.
However, because of smaller frame, tension feels slightly higher due to higher density string pattern, and also less forgiving due to smaller sweetspot. It is more powerful when hit consistently in sweetspot.
Still, I only use them for singles, as it's too slow for defence and fast rallies in doubles.
VTZF definitely has smaller frame than "conventional" rackets (like arcsaber 7). Not as small as ArcZS, though. But with VTZF I had to adjust my timing a bit, had some shots hitting the frame. VT80 seems to have a slightly larger head than VTZF. I see it as a plus, it makes easier to switch between rackets from singles to doubles.
Well I got myself the 3UG4 Voltric 80 today. Comparing to the 3U Z-force, they are quite different. ZF is definitely more head-heavy and, actually, the overall feel of VT80 is lighter, i don't know why. The main difference is that Z-force is stiffer. A lot. And it's the main problem with it for me. It's just not fast enough with quick wrist shots and quick smashes. You feel a sort of drag with it. VT80 feels much faster.
These are only the first impressions, haven't gone to court yet. I strung both VT80 and VTZF with Toalson 66 Nano Premium at 26 to 24 lbs, so i'll be able to compare them head-to-head with identical strings and tension.
Well, had a chance to test both rackets today. In static, z-force and vt80 feel head-heavy about the same (maybe even vt80 feels slightly heavier). But in motion z-force feels heavier due to super stiff shaft. VT80 feels a bit more solid, but definitely easier to swing. But still a bit slow in doubles. I can't say that I bonded with VT80 instantly, but I like it and gonna stick to it. Strangely though, despite having a standard isometric frame, I had a number of mishits with the frame. Much more, than I usually have when playing my Arc7.
Cant say much about the string, seems nice, repulsion and control are good. Played mostly with plastic, though, only played half a game with feathers and the feel was superb. But can't say that it's much better than BG80.
Vtzf has better control, stability, power(unreal if you can dial it in, this racket will make your smash faster). It is waaayy less maneuverable in defense/drives than the VT 80 for two reason the vt 80 has a lot more flex so you get a lot back from short sharp hits from what you put in and the other reason is simply the zf weight and BP make it harder to use in defence. If you are an amatuer(or maybe even pro) doubles player VT 80 will be so much more suitable. Don't underestimate the step up that the ZF is from the 80. this is with the 3u version for both. With regards to strings - If you are strong enough to extract the power out of the zf doesn't matter what string you use, but have your stringer on speed dial. it's a beast!
Warning! I have seen countless people using the ZF down at my local courts and clearly, even if they don't admit it, struggle bad with it, constantly hooking shots etc because of maneuverability. I would go as far to say if you hear anyone that is of more power/better technique than you complaining about the ZF then this racket will be unusable for you.
Yeah I agree with craigandy, the VTZF is definitely a step up from the VT80 in terms of power and control. But defense wise I think it's probably similar to the VT80 as the extra weight in the head is offset by the smaller head frame, maybe overall just slightly less maneuverable.
I have owned both rackets, and the transition between both rackets can cause a little timing issue and subsequently mishits. I believe you'll get used to it eventually.