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04-27-2013, 07:38 AM #18
1. you mentioned nothing of forecourt in your new "more interesting" Drive situation
2. My point still stands if it is even driven from left shoulder it is less powerful then from right shoulder.
3. Anything directly in front of you for a drive can be taken pan handle or backhand grip, but I would not class either a backhand.
04-27-2013, 08:07 AM #19
Not sure how you read any uncalmness in that post
1. It's a shot that can be played from forecourt isn't it
2. I don't think this is a given
04-27-2013, 08:12 AM #20
04-27-2013, 09:29 AM #21
1. non sequitur.
2. conclusion without any premise or inference.
3. no comment - deviation.
2. Request (implicit) for reasons for your conclusion given the challenge to your initial premise.
And where we are at now:
1. non sequitur. You original point 1 references '[my] more interesting drive situation', so why are you now referencing my comment on your drive technique as performed in the forecourt?
2. You repeat your conclusion and present a non-trival ambiguous and non-specific reason as trival.
I don't think I will waste my time further with this 'debate'.
Last edited by amleto; 04-27-2013 at 09:31 AM.
04-27-2013, 09:42 AM #22
lol why i said calm yourself.
You left out my post where i explained forehand drive stronger due to single direction of power transfer being more effective over backhand drive which isn't. So I had made my conclusion with premise you just choose to ignore it and then argue I had no premise lol.
04-27-2013, 11:48 AM #23
lol. totally irrelevant since I mentioned one should consider different form of drive where what you say doesn't apply anymore. lol
Hope I reply in a way that you can understand now. lol
04-27-2013, 12:51 PM #24
The only thing I can gather is you are not bending your knees enough. lol.
04-27-2013, 03:00 PM #25
I think all of that is obvious and intuitive.
Of course you can drive from the forecourt! Just think of some return of serve options - drive to either rear corners.
The major difference between a push and a drive is how hard you hit it
04-27-2013, 05:52 PM #26
If someone asks the question "how do I improve improve my forecourt and net play" I will assume they are not interested in improving their lifts. In the same way I assumed the op is not curious about relative strength of lifts from different sides. It just seems bizarre to me, sorry.
several examples in this vid of drives from the net.
Pushes use the same badminton grips as for drives, but with a softer hitting action.
04-27-2013, 08:02 PM #27
From Gollum's post to someone questioning difference between push and drive: ...... Pushes and drives are both "flat" shots. The angle may be completely flat, somewhat downwards, or somewhat upwards -- but not steeply downwards like a smash/drop, and not steeply upwards like a lift.
The difference between them is that a drive is a fast, sharp shot that travels into the rear part of the midcourt (or even into the rearcourt); whereas a push is a softer shot that travels into the front part of the midcourt (typically a short distance beyond the service line).
Pushes and drives can be played from varying positions, such as from the net, or when defending against the smash.
04-27-2013, 08:06 PM #28
I would still love to know what backhand drive it is that's stronger than a forehand drive?
04-28-2013, 07:59 AM #29
A drive from in-line or just outside of the left shoulder could be stronger than a similar drive from the forehand side, according to my anecdotal evidence.
Anyway, the OP is the one who has done the study and presumably has some objective evidence of stronger b/h shots in the forecourt and net area. Maybe they aren't drives at all! but then what shots are they (I'm still refusing to believe someone felt the need to do a study on lifts here)?
04-28-2013, 08:32 AM #30
Weird that is exactly the kind of drives I had pictured when answering your questions. Now I am even more confused as to what kind of drive you wrongly assumed i was talking about. Anyway power capabilities on forehand at that height are far greater, if someone could prove different, now that would be extremely interesting.
04-28-2013, 10:56 AM #31
for some reason I thought you were talking about this kind of drive
That's why I said 'you can also drive when the shuttle is received more centrally'