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    Default BWF is doing a favour to LCW by giving LD wild card

    Everyone knows this may be the last year of WC for LCW, everyone knows LD was lack of competition for the past 8 months, so giving a wild card to LD is in fact a conspiracy from BWF to do LCW a favour so that:

    1. LCW could win his 1st ever WC with LD's participation;

    2. LCW win a WC in China;

    3. LCW win a WC with max. number of Chinese MS players.

    This is the biggest present BWF want to give LCW before his potential retirement in near future, making his win more meaningful to him, and to his fans, who could chant this win forever.

    therefore mark my word, LCW is going to win WC13.

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    Just curious. What would be the main reason for peoples' objection to the wild card? Is it:
    A. because BWF gave the wild card to a player that already left the competition for such long time
    B. because BWF let a 'miracle' happen to china team, again
    C. because the player that awarded with the wild card is that guy, Lin Dan

    Which ONE reason is yours?

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    I think the strongest argument in favour of granting LD wild card is this: sponsors and fans want to see LD plays against LCW.

    The strongest argument against granting LD wild card are these: he did not bother to show up to many Super Series tournaments in the last few years, and, when he did show up, he gave so many Walk Overs to his own teammates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post

    therefore mark my word, LCW is going to win WC13.
    OK, I mark your word... but how many times has anybody said this before in the past... WC'06, WC'07, WC'09', WC'10, WC'11... same story for LCW.... potential winner... seeded number 1, world number 1 , bla bla bla.... but lost to the MIGHTY GANGSTER in the end...(in one way or the other)....

    This year is LDs year again... WC'13 will be a cake... just watch him... not surprised if he came back like in Thoma Cup '2010 to beat LCW so tamely in straight sets and fine style too....(and does the robot dance after his victory like in 2010)


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    Arrow Lin Dan is given a WILD CARD

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    Don't see why so many BCers have complained about Lin Dan has been given a WILD CARD.

    Tournament organisers usually invite back current champions to defend their titles; even after players have announced their retirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcll99 View Post
    I think the strongest argument in favour of granting LD wild card is this: sponsors and fans want to see LD plays against LCW.

    The strongest argument against granting LD wild card are these: he did not bother to show up to many Super Series tournaments in the last few years, and, when he did show up, he gave so many Walk Overs to his own teammates.
    On top of your comments, another strongest argument in favour of the wild card is LD's past achievement.

    The strongest argument is many ppl mixed up the punishment on LD's naughtiness and respect on the achievement of a great player.

    LD had been fined for absence from tournaments. He got his punishment under rules. Case settled.

    Yet someone wants to use this case to hand him a life sentence so that another guy and his country could be easier to have dream come true with LD's absence in WC.

    The world is full of hypocrisy which makes a man used to be perceived as humble person to become crazy due to such selfish cause.

    How amazing is human nature...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    On top of your comments, another strongest argument in favour of the wild card is LD's past achievement.

    The strongest argument is many ppl mixed up the punishment on LD's naughtiness and respect on the achievement of a great player.

    LD had been fined for absence from tournaments. He got his punishment under rules. Case settled.

    Yet someone wants to use this case to hand him a life sentence so that another guy and his country could be easier to have dream come true with LD's absence in WC.

    The world is full of hypocrisy which makes a man used to be perceived as humble person to become crazy due to such selfish cause.

    How amazing is human nature...
    I agree with the bold statement.

    I also think that the "another" strongest argument against granting LD the wild card is his absence for 8 months during the qualification period of WC2013. LCW, on the other hand, who has so many injuries, continues to fight, despite marriage and a new born baby.

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    It is really simple. Is the World Championship better with or without LD? To majority of badminton fans, and BWF, the answer is "with". And that's why he is included.

    LD is not an angel. One can certainly fault him for variety of things. All and all, is he good or bad for badminton?

    One thing for sure is that he is bad for someone's chance to win the World Championship and that's where the bulk of the resentment from.

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    For all you know, Lin Dan's wild card may be a blessing in disguise for Lee CW, without attempting to elaborate but I meant it in the good and positive sense. For me, other than these two legends, I'd like to see either Chen Long or Wang Zhengming or both of them in the final. Let's wait and see how events unfold from now on. Frankly, a weakened post-LOG Lin Dan shouldn't be feared by Lee CW. However,meanwhile, I'll be most glad to see Lin Dan steadily regain his form in the next few tournaments and eagerly await his return to the world championship in a blaze of glory.

    Anyway, BWF wanting both LD and LCW in the WC is completely justifiable and understandable at this stage while at the same time doing everything else they can to develop,popularize and promote the sport worldwide, the two are not mutually exclusive. Praise to BWF for taking an enlightened approach to award the wild card to Lin Dan which I'm certain it has won the approval of the great majority in the badminton community; I'm afraid the tiny vocal minority who opposed it has practically no or weak ground to stand on. To continue to rant against it is self-defeating for the fans and self-deprecating for the players involved, pardon me for saying.

    As far as badminton era is concerned, we're in the beginning of a transition stage with PG and TH out of the picture and both LD and LCW nearing the end of their careers and so far only Chen Long proving himself capable enough to step into their shoes albeit not fully yet, and ,hopefully, one or two others coming up soon.

    After all is said and done, in my opinion, Lin Dan more than deserves to be included in this edition of the world championship irrespective whether it's by way of automatic qualification (which should have been the case in the very first place), wild card,'privilege card' or whatnot.

    Right, in badminton we've much, a lot more, to do if we are to catch up with say tennis one day and,hopefully,badminton in due course gets the global recognition it deserves by winning the Laureus award for which no-one is more worthy than Lin Dan.

    It is time to move on, cast aside any narrow sectarian interest and look forward to what promises to be another exciting,thrilling,perhaps dramatic yet memorable world championship. I certainly do.

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    As a matter of fact, technically speaking, CMIIW, I don't see how Lee CW will meet more than three CHN players at most. And if Lin Dan is in the opposite half with Chen Long, he will only face either one not both en route to the final.

    I'd say Lin Dan's inclusion really cuts both ways for Lee CW, it all depends on how he comes to grips with it. Conspiracy theories or not, whether it's Tay Seu Bok's or Jonc108's, shouldn't really matter so much. As jasontyh put it so aptly, wild card or not, only the best player can win the world championship; it so happened that both LD and LCW have their work cut out for them, for the former it's more to do with the physical whereas for the latter it's mostly the mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julianng View Post
    OK, I mark your word... but how many times has anybody said this before in the past... WC'06, WC'07, WC'09', WC'10, WC'11... same story for LCW.... potential winner... seeded number 1, world number 1 , bla bla bla.... but lost to the MIGHTY GANGSTER in the end...(in one way or the other)....

    This year is LDs year again... WC'13 will be a cake... just watch him... not surprised if he came back like in Thoma Cup '2010 to beat LCW so tamely in straight sets and fine style too....(and does the robot dance after his victory like in 2010)


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    By calling him a gangster, it reflects badly on you rather than him. And if he is a gangster, why praise him as mighty, aren't you contradicting yourself?

    Besides, how is one who is filial and dutiful to his mother and grandmother as well as doting and devoted to his wife and who has been doing social volunteer and charitable work including visiting disaster sites and slum districts...be a gangster?

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    Who also think that LD and LCW will be "randomly" on their each side without facing each other until the final?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Don't see why so many BCers have complained about Lin Dan has been given a WILD CARD.

    Tournament organisers usually invite back current champions to defend their titles; even after players have announced their retirements.
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    Examples ..?

    As 108 mentioned Lin Dan has paid the fines accompanying his AWOL but neglected the fact that missing out on the WC is also part of the penalty. Would he have gotten a wildcard if the event didn't happen to take place in China?
    He just had a nice break to re-charge post-Olympic cycle whilst neglecting all his promotional duties for the sake of badminton and BWF now get's credit for giving him a wildcard to the WC for the greater good of badminton .
    Guess what: the badminton WC is still a speck of dust on the commercial and press radar. Coverage will be poor as usual ... internationally anyway.

    But the good thing is what it will/might generate in China, the commercial value still seems low so putting on a good event there and having all the names present is indeed important.

    (and I could care less if LCW wins the title if one wants to counter with that argument)
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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Would he have gotten a wildcard if the event didn't happen to take place in China?
    Well he might actually have . Still need to sell tickets of course (any organizer would want him to show up).

    Another precedent set in any case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    Can we have a quick translated summary in English ?
    I don't have the time to do a full translation, so I just pick the two most important pieces of information I get from this article.
    LYB said BWF made the right decision about LD's wild card, and this is not influenced by the efforts from Chinese badminton community. He also said LD was very happy to hear this news and said he would make good use of the 3 month time to prepare himself well for the 2013 WC.

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    According to BWF's website, "China BA will decide whether or not they wish to use wild cards" on 1 May 2013. "BWF to decide whether or not to use BWF wild cards" on 3 May 2013.

    Did China BA in fact decide not to use wild card for LD? thanks..

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    Weiping_tx, thank you very much for your time and effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    Well he might actually have . Still need to sell tickets of course (any organizer would want him to show up).
    Another precedent set in any case
    Well, he might actually have not. only host nation has privilege to propose a wild card for her players.

    Also, agree with you and what Jonc 108 said. despite looking it is an advantage for chinese team, the wild card it self could be a blessing in disguise for LCW. can not wait to see the result when revealing time arrived.
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