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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    I am not talking just about China's and/or Malaysia's behaviour.

    I am talking about BWF rules applying to all players and/or to association members; And how BWF can prevent allowing them to find loopholes in their tournament rules to gain an advantage.

    Yes, in the 2007 WC, BAM and Malaysian coaches also found loopholes in BWF rules to gain advantage (to field in more MAS players).

    Currently, I think 3 players from each country is the best, since there are only 3 medals (Gold, Silver and Bronze) to be won.

    Previously (as many BCers know), I thought that for the WC, only 1 player/pair from each country (each national Singles/Doubles champion) is to participate in it; therefore letting only national champions to challenge each other.
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    Right, BWF better do something, the rate China baddy is going,

    it could become like ping pong

    OTH, can it be amended to three maximum (including the wild card)?

    That would be taking out a qualified player

    or four maximum including the wild card ?

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    • Wild cards are no loop holes. They are there for exactly the purpose of promoting the game. BAM was right to use them as the host. CBA did not have that opportunity due to the rule change. BWF stepped in to do the right thing.
    • BWF needs to do more but the other BAs need to do even more. Badminton cannot be advanced by limiting China. Players from other country just need to get better. Tennis is full of players from the U.S. That does not seem to limit its appeal.
    • Instead of limiting the number of players from China, BWF should come down hard on suspicious walkovers. If I were the president of BWF, I would look into the eyes of LYB and his boss (a VP of BWF) and ask them to guarantee full out competition among Chinese teammates before I give LD the wildcard.

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    Anybody is saying wild cards are loop holes?

    Giving it to LD after eight months absence is kinda wake up call

    for us to glue our eyes coming this WC

    Yong bo & company will give you heaven and earth before the wild card is given to LD,

    after that i am not too sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    I am not talking just about China's and/or Malaysia's behaviour.

    I am talking about BWF rules applying to all players and/or to association members; And how BWF can prevent allowing them to find loopholes in their tournament rules to gain an advantage.

    Yes, in the 2007 WC, BAM and Malaysian coaches also found loopholes in BWF rules to gain advantage (to field in more MAS players).

    Currently, I think 3 players from each country is the best, since there are only 3 medals (Gold, Silver and Bronze) to be won.

    Previously (as many BCers know), I thought that for the WC, only 1 player/pair from each country (each national Singles/Doubles champion) is to participate in it; therefore letting only national champions to challenge each other.
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    I don't think it's the BA's who were trying hard to find loopholes in BWF rules. It's BWF who awarded the wild cards to the nation, even with the nation already send 3 players through the qualifying ranks.

    About why send 4 players, well, maybe to give the nation better opportunity to win? And if you missed it, WC is different with OG. OG do just offered 3 medals, but WC offered 4 medals, 1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    Time to close this thread since it is still the same few person congratulating BWF that their idol can now compete, through the back door.
    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    Don't think LCW knew it was going to be an issue then.

    Most probably that wild card call caught him by surprise

    which follows by more surprises

    from fans, players, worshippers, supporters, followers etc

    all over the world
    Hypocrites, hypocrites, why the world is so full of hypocrites?

    When using the same rule to their benefit, no problem.

    When using the same rule to others' benefit, cries and playing god pretending to uphold justice just to discredit use by others and maintain the benefit of their own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    Hypocrites, hypocrites, why the world is so full of hypocrites?

    When using the same rule to their benefit, no problem.

    When using the same rule to others' benefit, cries and playing god pretending to uphold justice just to discredit use by others and maintain the benefit of their own...
    What's getting onto your nerves lately

    calling people hypocrites?

    Agreed to disagree,

    if you can't, take a month off in this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    Hypocrites, hypocrites, why the world is so full of hypocrites?

    When using the same rule to their benefit, no problem.

    When using the same rule to others' benefit, cries and playing god pretending to uphold justice just to discredit use by others and maintain the benefit of their own...
    That's why I said this thread is going nowhere and should be closed when we have this kind of comments.

    LD already got his wild card. What more do you want?

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    pBm and nok, let's learn how to agree to disagree instead of threaten others to take off from forum. Case closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    So the referee worship LD?
    Referee, likes all umpires and line judges, should be neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    That's why I said this thread is going nowhere and should be closed when we have this kind of comments.

    LD already got his wild card. What more do you want?

    Why close this? Without this thread I did not know that Maylasia got 5 wild cards in 2007 WC.

    Lee is not a smart guy. Maybe that's why he cannot win big titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laonong View Post
    Why close this? Without this thread I did not know that Maylasia got 5 wild cards in 2007 WC.

    Lee is not a smart guy. Maybe that's why he cannot win big titles.
    That's right, one has to quit international scene for eight months,

    go here commercial shoot there commercial shoot,

    collecting big bucks,

    refuse to qualify entry for wc instead use back door,

    and blow nose all over the court area when playing in final,

    make us spectators grind our teeth when we see him do jumping smashes,

    pull out shirts and jump up and down after a win.

    And that's how we all love to see LIN DAN .... damn smart guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    That's right, one has to quit international scene for eight months,
    go here commercial shoot there commercial shoot,
    collecting big bucks,
    refuse to qualify entry for wc instead use back door,
    and blow nose all over the court area when playing in final,
    make us spectators grind our teeth when we see him do jumping smashes,
    pull out shirts and jump up and down after a win.
    And that's how we all love to see LIN DAN .... damn smart guy
    BWF is at LD & CBA's mercy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    make us spectators grind our teeth when we see him do jumping smashes,
    Why do you grind your teeth when you see LD jump smashing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    BWF is at LD & CBA's mercy.
    So the BWF was at BAM mercy in WC2007?

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    Quote Originally Posted by V1lau View Post
    Why do you grind your teeth when you see LD jump smashing?
    Just a figure of speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    That's right, one has to quit international scene for eight months,

    go here commercial shoot there commercial shoot,

    collecting big bucks,

    refuse to qualify entry for wc instead use back door,

    and blow nose all over the court area when playing in final,

    make us spectators grind our teeth when we see him do jumping smashes,

    pull out shirts and jump up and down after a win.

    And that's how we all love to see LIN DAN .... damn smart guy
    Add another one: LIn Dan is handsome.

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    An athlete is also a human, need to take rest and do something else he wanted. He didn't owe the fans anything. He do it within rules and received a fine according to rules. He applied leave to BWF but rejected. He now only ranked 40 and have to play qualifucation in GPG. He take up the responsibility as a man, not like someone whined like a girl...

    Why fans need to grind your teeth? What do you want more then? In sports world, No one is at any other's mercy. You are at your own mercy.

    Just because you love him too much and lead to so much hatred, and want him to be under your own mercy... How to call this???!!!

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