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    Default Yonex Nanospeed 100 vs MusclePowe 99 vs Carbonex 8200 light

    Hey guys

    As I mentioned in the title, I need help in deciding between 3 rackets. Since I have already got all the 3 rackets, money is not a subject. I have the following rackets:

    Nanospeed 100 with original string, hardly ever played with it so still pretty new

    MusclePower 99, restrung with BG70 pro, I think with a lil hogher tension then the NS100

    Carbonex 8200 light, gonna restring it with BG80 at 21lbs I think

    My lvl: I have played badminton for like 2 years untill I had to stop 5 years ago. A few months ago I restarted playing weekly. So I'm no bloody beginner, allthough I'd say I'm still in the beginners section, since I do a lot of mistakes and my footwork isn't very good.

    What do you guys think would serve me best? Or doesn't it matter at all?

    Thanks for any advices
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    go with the mp99

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    why bother asking, why don't you just use each racket and play with them with the duration of 1mo each and then compare?

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    @vajrasattva thank you

    @gundamzaku I thaught of that too, and I think I'm gonna do it like that. I just thaught that maybe one of these rackets are a total no-go for a beginner (e.g. cuz the carbonex 8200 is too light) and i was hoping for some reviews bout the carbonex since i couldn't find any. But as you said, the best wil probably be to try all the rackets and then decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    @vajrasattva thank you

    @gundamzaku I thaught of that too, and I think I'm gonna do it like that. I just thaught that maybe one of these rackets are a total no-go for a beginner (e.g. cuz the carbonex 8200 is too light) and i was hoping for some reviews bout the carbonex since i couldn't find any. But as you said, the best wil probably be to try all the rackets and then decide.
    Do you find you get much power with MP99? That is a very stiff racket and not good if you are lacking technique and power. Less stiff racket will allow you to bend the racket more, which is for beginners if they are lacking wrist power.

    How are you missing? not hitting the sweet spot or...?

    if i'm not mistaken the Carbonex is oval shaped head, which tends to mean a smaller sweet spot, and since it is headlight, it is hard for a beginner to generate power.

    Personally if i'm starting out I would try the nano 100 with bg 65/80 at around 22lbs, if I feel I have enough power. A slightly higher tension means slightly smaller sweet spot but more control since there is less deformation of the string when you hit the shuttle. Then change to MP99 when you feel you have enough wrist power and string that at 22-23lb.

    Do try it out and see if this makes sense.

    Hope this is helpful...

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    yes, i think im lacking technique and power. my drop shots come pretty good, but the clears ans smashes arent powerful enough. and i miss the sweet pot too often or even hit it with the frame, but i think that just need some more practice.
    thank you, you helpes me a lot. i think im gonna try the ns100 tomorrow with original stringing, if i still have the same problems after a month, i propably will try a new string.

    alprausch

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    Quote Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
    Do you find you get much power with MP99? That is a very stiff racket and not good if you are lacking technique and power. Less stiff racket will allow you to bend the racket more, which is for beginners if they are lacking wrist power.

    How are you missing? not hitting the sweet spot or...?

    if i'm not mistaken the Carbonex is oval shaped head, which tends to mean a smaller sweet spot, and since it is headlight, it is hard for a beginner to generate power.

    Personally if i'm starting out I would try the nano 100 with bg 65/80 at around 22lbs, if I feel I have enough power. A slightly higher tension means slightly smaller sweet spot but more control since there is less deformation of the string when you hit the shuttle. Then change to MP99 when you feel you have enough wrist power and string that at 22-23lb.

    Do try it out and see if this makes sense.

    Hope this is helpful...
    I tried the NS100 yesterday and it felt... pretty weird, probably because of bounce-back effect. I'll try it again next week to see if I get used to it, but so far I liked the control the MS99 gave me way better then the NS100...

    Do you know how to find out with what tension my NS100 is strung? Or does anybody know how high yonex strings their racket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    I tried the NS100 yesterday and it felt... pretty weird, probably because of bounce-back effect. I'll try it again next week to see if I get used to it, but so far I liked the control the MS99 gave me way better then the NS100...

    Do you know how to find out with what tension my NS100 is strung? Or does anybody know how high yonex strings their racket?
    I'm not sure what you mean by the bounce-back effect, can you explain this more clearly? How does it feel when you do a net shot/drive? What about a clear or smash? How does it feel exactly?

    Given ns100 is a lower end racket, it's expected it won't feel as solid as the mp99.

    String tension is lost over time, and the original string will have very low tension due to this loss, temperature differences and reducing shipping risks. There is no accurate way to measure tension after it is strung. You will definitely have problems controlling the shuttle with a very low tension string.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by the bounce-back effect, can you explain this more clearly? How does it feel when you do a net shot/drive? What about a clear or smash? How does it feel exactly?

    Given ns100 is a lower end racket, it's expected it won't feel as solid as the mp99.

    String tension is lost over time, and the original string will have very low tension due to this loss, temperature differences and reducing shipping risks. There is no accurate way to measure tension after it is strung. You will definitely have problems controlling the shuttle with a very low tension string.
    I thought thats the effect of lower tension, that the string goes a little further back as the shuttle hits in and then snaps the shuttle forward, which results in more power but less control.
    Hmm i dont know how to explain that... the whole gameplay just feels softer and weaker, althought i don't think that my shots lost any power. At least i can clear pretty well now. Smashes still don't come powerful enough, but i think that's more the technique then the racket.

    Okay, well I asked Yonex Switzerland and they told me that the rackets get strung with 9kg, which is about 20 pounds. Does that make a big difference to 22 lbs, as you recommended me?

    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    I thought thats the effect of lower tension, that the string goes a little further back as the shuttle hits in and then snaps the shuttle forward, which results in more power but less control.
    Hmm i dont know how to explain that... the whole gameplay just feels softer and weaker, althought i don't think that my shots lost any power. At least i can clear pretty well now. Smashes still don't come powerful enough, but i think that's more the technique then the racket.

    Okay, well I asked Yonex Switzerland and they told me that the rackets get strung with 9kg, which is about 20 pounds. Does that make a big difference to 22 lbs, as you recommended me?

    thanks again
    Sounds like you feel that the tension is so low that a significant part of the power is dissipated by the string, of course the lower end NS100 will not feel as good as a MP99. If you don't plan on buying another racket anytime soon, i'll recommend 22lb with BG80, which is a thinner string, should give you more feedback and solid feel.

    The tension and string makes quiet a bit of difference, for me bg 70 feels numb and soft. I go for BG80 for it's feel and it's not as slippery as others. If you stringing is not too expensive giving BG66 a try is a good idea. If you need it to last BG65 is a great choice, I personally find BG80 is a great middle ground, and at low tensions such as 22lb it should last for a long time.

    Best of luck

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    Well i think buying a new racket would be a waste of money, since i already have 3?!

    ok, that fits pretty well since i've just bought BG80 string for my carbonex, but i think im gonna string my NS100 with it now. So you'd still recommend me to start with the NS100, not with the MP99 although it feels better?

    Thanks alot, i really appreciate your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    Well i think buying a new racket would be a waste of money, since i already have 3?!

    ok, that fits pretty well since i've just bought BG80 string for my carbonex, but i think im gonna string my NS100 with it now. So you'd still recommend me to start with the NS100, not with the MP99 although it feels better?

    Thanks alot, i really appreciate your help
    MP99 is extra stiff, if you don't know how to generate power, you will hurt your arm and wrist, while still not generating much power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
    MP99 is extra stiff, if you don't know how to generate power, you will hurt your arm and wrist, while still not generating much power.
    allright, well that would explain the hurt i sometimes got when i tried to smash... i just kept playing untill it disappeared but i dont think thats vry good for my arm...
    thanks again =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
    Sounds like you feel that the tension is so low that a significant part of the power is dissipated by the string, of course the lower end NS100 will not feel as good as a MP99. If you don't plan on buying another racket anytime soon, i'll recommend 22lb with BG80, which is a thinner string, should give you more feedback and solid feel.

    The tension and string makes quiet a bit of difference, for me bg 70 feels numb and soft. I go for BG80 for it's feel and it's not as slippery as others. If you stringing is not too expensive giving BG66 a try is a good idea. If you need it to last BG65 is a great choice, I personally find BG80 is a great middle ground, and at low tensions such as 22lb it should last for a long time.

    Best of luck
    ... or would you recommend me buying another racket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    Well i think buying a new racket would be a waste of money, since i already have 3?!

    ok, that fits pretty well since i've just bought BG80 string for my carbonex, but i think im gonna string my NS100 with it now. So you'd still recommend me to start with the NS100, not with the MP99 although it feels better?

    Thanks alot, i really appreciate your help
    since you have three rackets, the way to test them to be a bit more accurate is to use the same string stringing at the same tension. unfortunately your cab is an oval head, which means you'll probably drop the tension by around 2lbs to get the same tension and the same frequency on the stringbed. i don't know how easily assessible a stringer is for you, but i would just start with bg65, the basic....see if you notice the difference on each racket. then after maybe a month of using them all, then cut the string and string a new string like bg80 or bg66 or some NBG strings as well tension i would recommend the same tension as recommended by others, at around 22~23lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    ... or would you recommend me buying another racket?
    since you have the mp99 and cab8200 which are both even balance and your ns100 is head light, if you really must get another racket, might i suggest you get a light weight head heavy medium flex racket, just so you can have all three balance and you can figure out what type of racket balance best suits your game

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    Quote Originally Posted by alprausch View Post
    ... or would you recommend me buying another racket?
    Depends if you rather spend the money on a restring or new racket, a racket may take quiet a bit of time to get used to. Improve your technique and you can just use your MP99. Don't try to hit it hard, get the technique right first, it's very tempting for people to try to hit it as hard as they can with the wrong technique, so they don't improve much.

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