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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    My review is pending, and you're saying everything I am going to say.
    Great! That means at least two of us are right

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    Well, one session down, but I need another one before I put pen to paper.

    I will say this, though: no timing issues.

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    Mark, put one of your current rackets head up against the NRZS. The reason there's no timing issues, is because it's only the bottom half of the head thats smaller than a regular ISO head shape.

    And nobody hits the shuttle there, right?

    The only timing issue I had was that because the sweetspot is so high in the head, I found I could (and should) try to take the shuttle slightly earlier than I normally would. This kind of adds to the 'illusion' of speed - the racket is not faster, it's just encouraging YOU to be faster.

    The only real "if" I have, is that I wonder if I had more time with it, whether I'd get used to the 'soft' feeling of the sweetspot and the noticeably less soft feeling elsewhere, or whether it would start to annoy me. It's a bit schizophrenic like that, but also quite compelling.

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    I'd surmise the soft feeling at the sweetspot is due to the straightened cross grommets, effectively lengthening those few crosses by 5-6mm each.

    It does feel mushy there, relative to elsewhere on the stringbed.
    Last edited by visor; 10-04-2013 at 08:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    I'd surmise the soft feeling at the sweetspot is due to the straightened cross grommets, effectively lengthening those few crosses by 5-6mm each.

    It does feel mushy there, relative to elsewhere on the stringbed.
    i feel the soft feeling to be hitting at the lower part of the sweet spot, not the higher part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vajrasattva View Post
    i feel the soft feeling to be hitting at the lower part of the sweet spot, not the higher part.
    How did the ZSP compare to the Ougi?

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    It doesn't effectively lengthen the strings at all.

    The string doesn't move significantly inside the hole, so it doesn't matter what direction the hole is drilled in the frame.

    The only way the string would be actively lengthened, is if Yonex had made the holes tapered to the point that where the string exits the frame, it doesn't touch anything. But it does.

    I think the strings might be more effectively damped, but they aren't effectively longer. Even if they were, their effect would be negated by the ones that aren't. They don't act independently.

    HOWEVER......grab the top of the frame and the bottom of the frame and try to snap the head in half.

    Notice the amount of flex in the head?? Scary.

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    You guys made me want to try this racket badly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    Mark, put one of your current rackets head up against the NRZS. The reason there's no timing issues, is because it's only the bottom half of the head thats smaller than a regular ISO head shape.

    And nobody hits the shuttle there, right?

    The only timing issue I had was that because the sweetspot is so high in the head, I found I could (and should) try to take the shuttle slightly earlier than I normally would. This kind of adds to the 'illusion' of speed - the racket is not faster, it's just encouraging YOU to be faster.

    The only real "if" I have, is that I wonder if I had more time with it, whether I'd get used to the 'soft' feeling of the sweetspot and the noticeably less soft feeling elsewhere, or whether it would start to annoy me. It's a bit schizophrenic like that, but also quite compelling.
    The sweet spot is higher than usual, but the head is faster than usual, so you're going to get to the shuttle earlier anyway.

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    My Z-Speed arrived today; can't wait to try it out.

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    I thought this racket hv better smash power than jjs. Thanks guy who made this comparison. So i will stick with my jjs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffsuad View Post
    I thought this racket hv better smash power than jjs. Thanks guy who made this comparison. So i will stick with my jjs.
    a racquet does not smash harder.. its still down to the technique with each different stiffness/swing

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    been down to shop to hav a look at tis racket. other than those mention here, tis racket spots a armortec type of frame section at the top but very much narrower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinichi View Post
    How did the ZSP compare to the Ougi?
    For me the Ougi/Shiden 3UG5 feels better and faster.

    The NR-ZS 3UG5 feels quite damped even by Yonex's standards..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mms6a View Post
    For me the Ougi/Shiden 3UG5 feels better and faster.

    The NR-ZS 3UG5 feels quite damped even by Yonex's standards..
    really? then I'll stick with my ougi and order the shiden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinichi View Post
    How did the ZSP compare to the Ougi?
    i never liked the ougi so it might be a little biased.

    its much easier for power to be generated from the zspeed as obviously the head heaviness is much more distinct, the hitting feel is different as well, ougi feels less whippy than the zspeed, and upon shuttle contact, the ougi feels a bit more dead, the zspeed livelier.

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    would the shiden feel faster?

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