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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    Something tells me the ZS will swing lighter than we expect - tiny head and aerodynamic tech... come to think of it, it may swing less stiff as well: smaller head means more shaft.
    at first i thought, lighter head, so less weight, so yes faster, but less stiff??? and then the next post............

    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Yeah, could be. Although for their sake I really hope they learned their lesson with the ArcZS and make this one stiff enough to keep torsional stability, not everyone likes playing with a bobblehead
    perfect example of small head frame but still flexible, and the bobblehead gives a perfect image!

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    Don't worry about it. Victor introduce the catapult system and it is stable
    catapult system, interesting...

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    I was sold on the 11% larger sweet spot and the flexible frame....now it's just waiting to see what that'll translate to in my game. Have always loved the smaller frame on the Z-Force, so am glad to have that again...nice and compact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vajrasattva View Post
    yup! and if you have had noticed. the voltric 80 has this phenomena too, just that they didnt give a name to it. the thinnest part of the voltric 80 shaft almost corresponds to this "snap back" zone
    Bulge / bump in VT80 frame is more interesting than it's thin shaft. Thinner outer diameter is not the only factor in shaft repulsion, wall thickness is more important. I'm not saying that thinner shaft in VT80 is achieved by implementing smaller outer diameter (but smaller inner diameter too, so wall thickness is just the same or prabaly thicker) but it would be very interesting and appealing if they can manage to have both thinner shaft with thinner wall thickness too (like NS9900 wall thickness)
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    Quote Originally Posted by surajaya View Post
    Bulge / bump in VT80 frame is more interesting than it's thin shaft. Thinner outer diameter is not the only factor in shaft repulsion, wall thickness is more important. I'm not saying that thinner shaft in VT80 is achieved by implementing smaller outer diameter (but smaller inner diameter too, so wall thickness is just the same or prabaly thicker) but it would be very interesting and appealing if they can manage to have both thinner shaft with thinner wall thickness too (like NS9900 wall thickness)
    Pretty sure he was talking about the frame, not the shaft.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Pretty sure he was talking about the frame, not the shaft.......

    Sorry, my mistake

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    Had the racket in my hands on Tuesday, but could only do a few swings and strokes with it. So no final judgement.

    The rackethead is pretty small. And it feels heavier than I expected.

    My first impression: It feels really good at first glance, but is it a milestone or breakthrough? Probably not. A good racket if you need a new one anyway, but for me no necessity to change from my VT80 4U...

    For the fashion victims: The color scheme is killer!!! Really, really nice...

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    Currently Using the VT70 as i could not get to grips with the ZF, this i think this is partly due to my style of play where i use alot of wrist and the ZF being extra stiff.

    Would this new Z-speed be a good alternative?

    Thanks in Advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changsta View Post
    Currently Using the VT70 as i could not get to grips with the ZF, this i think this is partly due to my style of play where i use alot of wrist and the ZF being extra stiff.

    Would this new Z-speed be a good alternative?

    Thanks in Advance
    Sorry even though this isn't relevant to the topic , how flexy is the voltric 70? :0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changsta View Post
    Currently Using the VT70 as i could not get to grips with the ZF, this i think this is partly due to my style of play where i use alot of wrist and the ZF being extra stiff.

    Would this new Z-speed be a good alternative?

    Thanks in Advance
    This is always hard to tell!
    Imho, everyone should always try a racket and find out whether it suits you.
    I can't tell whether you like the smaller racket head. Or the stiffness. Or...

    In principle, if you like the VT70, but miss something, I would say the new Z-speed is def worth a test. If you like it or not, you have to find out by yourself...

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    It Medium Flex but due to the thin Frame i get alot of whip due to my style of play but power wise its slightly lagging behind the AT700 i used to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |_Footwork_| View Post
    Had the racket in my hands on Tuesday, but could only do a few swings and strokes with it. So no final judgement.

    The rackethead is pretty small. And it feels heavier than I expected.

    My first impression: It feels really good at first glance, but is it a milestone or breakthrough? Probably not. A good racket if you need a new one anyway, but for me no necessity to change from my VT80 4U...

    For the fashion victims: The color scheme is killer!!! Really, really nice...
    Manage to snap any pix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by |_Footwork_| View Post
    This is always hard to tell!
    Imho, everyone should always try a racket and find out whether it suits you.
    I can't tell whether you like the smaller racket head. Or the stiffness. Or...

    In principle, if you like the VT70, but miss something, I would say the new Z-speed is def worth a test. If you like it or not, you have to find out by yourself...
    A wise man once said...let the racquet find you, and not you the racquet.
    Last edited by chilli; 09-07-2013 at 12:51 PM. Reason: missing word

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
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    Has the swing wt data been posted up on at700.com? I couldn't find it. Tks.
    Usually not available before commercial release so probably has to wait on that but maybe soon. I think this was posted by the same person. Seems he was stringing one up from the title of the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilli View Post
    A wise man once said...let the racquet find you, and not you the racquet.
    That can get expensive - believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilli View Post
    A wise man once said...let the racquet find you, and not you the racquet.
    A wise man once said... it's the player, not the racket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    A wise man once said... it's the player, not the racket.
    True, but I'd rather win with a super nice racquet than a crappy one
    That goes for...money isn't everything, but I'd rather cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    A wise man once said... it's the player, not the racket.
    "A good player with a bad racket will always beat a bad player with a good racket" - me.

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