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    Smash and speed

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    I am also a vt80 user but find it heavy and could not control it well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonn Loo View Post
    I am also a vt80 user but find it heavy and could not control it well
    both vt80 and arc10... 3u or 4u?

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    All my rackets are 3u

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    In that case, for all 3U

    stiffness: vt80>zsp>arc10
    bp: vt80>zsp>arc10
    speed: arc10>zsp>vt80
    smash: zsp>vt80>arc10


    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonn Loo View Post
    Is this racket as stiff or stiffer than vt80 and arc 10?How does it compare to bs 10 or gosen shiden or vt80 or even arcsaber 10 in terms of smash power,control and speed because i m a arc 10 user and want a upgrade to either a bs 10, shiden or a nanoray z speed

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    Bs10 is gonna be faster, if you can smash harder with it depends solely on you. It's lighter, so you'll need a rather explosive movement to get a harder smash with it than with the Arc10.

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    But to me the vt80 seems the most flexi which i dont like.The arcsaber 10 stiffness is the best though something stiffer would be better.Will bs10 be more flexi than nrzspeed ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonn Loo View Post
    But to me the vt80 seems the most flexi which i dont like.The arcsaber 10 stiffness is the best though something stiffer would be better.Will bs10 be more flexi than nrzspeed ?
    zsp is way flexier, almost feels like vt70 with more bp... so i can already guarantee you'll hate it

    bs10 is quite stiff and lower bp, so as j4ckie says you'll need good technique and timing as it's less forgiving

    perhaps a 4u vtzf would be good for you... stiffer than vt80 and only around 83g 310mm dry, so lighter more maneuverable than 3u vt80 or 3u arc10, but still good oomph for smashing
    Last edited by visor; 09-22-2013 at 03:14 AM.

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    Guess i will need to test it out before buying it though it is flexi

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    consider the 4u vtzf, as i had edited above

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    I wonder how many people who bought the 3u Z-Force, if you gave them a 4u to try now they'd go "Damn, I bought the wrong one"?

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    My BS10 had a BP of 303 (but felt lower because it was too stiff for me).

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    « can't believe how small the [ZSP] head ... is»

    The tactical effect should be, if I remember correctly: less errors for those who never needed a wide/anti-jerk isometric frame (players of oval frames). A good feature.

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    Will stick to my Zslash bah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonn Loo View Post
    Is this racket as stiff or stiffer than vt80 and arc 10?How does it compare to bs 10 or gosen shiden or vt80 or even arcsaber 10 in terms of smash power,control and speed because i m a arc 10 user and want a upgrade to either a bs 10, shiden or a nanoray z speed
    i've had owned/still own some of the racquets you mentioned except the BS.

    the fastest racquet amongst all that you have mentioned is the Gosen Shiden. Hands down, and the repulsion's really good, i feel the Shiden has a livelier repulsion than the Zspeed that i'm using right now.

    the down side is that the shiden has a bp of 281-282.. vs the Zspeed at 300mm+, and the differences in head weight i found smashing much easier with the Zspeed than the shiden. there are some with good technique that can smash very well with the shiden though.

    i would put the vt80 arc10 and zspeed in similar stiffness categories. the VT80 due to the more weighted tip and the ultra thin shaft at the 2/3 point results in some bending/flexing. the arc10 does not have the weight advantage, and thus the shaft feels a bit "stiffer".

    in terms of control, speed, smash power, i feel the Zspeed gives a rather balanced performance subjected to my past few playing sessions with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonn Loo View Post
    Guess i will need to test it out before buying it though it is flexi
    yes.. that is the way experience/try it yourself and see if its for you

    racquet preference can be extremely "unique" to certain individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    I wonder how many people who bought the 3u Z-Force, if you gave them a 4u to try now they'd go "Damn, I bought the wrong one"?
    @Maklike Tier
    The ones who bought it for fast MD games...

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