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    Hello all, would want to get some advice on some pain I'm facing.
    I had a problem with tennis elbow on and off, but it normally will go off after i rested for a month or so.

    Recently I bought a head heavy 4U racket, previously was using a ultra light 6u racket. After some sessions with the new racket with a lot of smashing I started to notice some pain on my biceps area. It hurt whenever I wanted to lift my arm to do a backhand serve and also when I lift my arm up.

    I know this isn't the same tennis elbow that I faced before as the location of the pain is not the same. Not sure is it because I used a HH racket all the sudden or due to my wrong smashing method ( I'm not a wrist user, more of arm user )

    Anyone know whats wrong with my arm?
    Possible for those in Malaysia to recommend a good & affordable sports injury therapist for me?

    Thanks

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    I used to had that. My coach told me to do some push up before and after baddie session, and the pain stopped since. I think it has got to do with the way our muscles worked in pair, ie triceps with biceps, simply can't overworked one without the other. Hope it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudx View Post
    I know this isn't the same tennis elbow that I faced before as the location of the pain is not the same. Not sure is it because I used a HH racket all the sudden or due to my wrong smashing method ( I'm not a wrist user, more of arm user )
    Improper technique can produce injury. I'm not 100%, but it stands to reason to me that a head heavy racket would worsen that injury. As you've said this is a recurring issue, I'd strongly advise you look at changing your technique.

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    The Bicep is one muscle I never thought would be used very much for smashing! Maybe for tennis but not so much in Badminton.
    Usually it's the elbow and shoulder that will usually hurt also the wrist.
    So to me it does sound like a technique issue.

    I've used head heavy 3u rackets (Z speed and ZF1, ZF2) and they've actually helped with my tennis elbow.

    Anyway, do try warming up all your muscles and try modifying your technique a little to make sure you don't hurt yourself. A coach may help with the technique so you can find a quick and explosive swing/stroke that doesn't hurt you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leongwaipak View Post
    The Bicep is one muscle I never thought would be used very much for smashing! Maybe for tennis but not so much in Badminton.
    Usually it's the elbow and shoulder that will usually hurt also the wrist.
    So to me it does sound like a technique issue.

    I've used head heavy 3u rackets (Z speed and ZF1, ZF2) and they've actually helped with my tennis elbow.

    Anyway, do try warming up all your muscles and try modifying your technique a little to make sure you don't hurt yourself. A coach may help with the technique so you can find a quick and explosive swing/stroke that doesn't hurt you.
    Hi Leong, I'm not saying it's the biceps hurt.. but more of the area at biceps, I'm not sure what's wrong with my arm. Does the injury to the shoulder will cause pain when trying to lift my arm up? As I know tennis elbow doesn't hv those pain when i lift my arm up

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    Where is the pain on this pic?


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    Which describes your smash technique?

    1) u swing your arm n racket back before swinging forward
    2) you Bring your racket back then swing forward.

    No. 1 works the bicep more, plus hh add more leverage load to what you were used to. Guessing its no. 1

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudx View Post
    Hi Leong, I'm not saying it's the biceps hurt.. but more of the area at biceps, I'm not sure what's wrong with my arm. Does the injury to the shoulder will cause pain when trying to lift my arm up? As I know tennis elbow doesn't hv those pain when i lift my arm up
    Trust me when my tennis elbow hurts, i struggle to lift anything.
    It could be your shoulders hurting. Always ok to check with a physio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jug8man View Post
    Which describes your smash technique?

    1) u swing your arm n racket back before swinging forward
    2) you Bring your racket back then swing forward.

    No. 1 works the bicep more, plus hh add more leverage load to what you were used to. Guessing its no. 1

    Cheers
    Yea it's no.1, I'm actually a hard hitter. Guess it's due to because I come from a very light racket user so I tend to swing very fast, once I got a HH racket I still swing very fast, guess it will cause some burden to my arm.

    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Where is the pain on this pic?

    Visor, it's the area between the elbow & shoulder, near the shoulder part.

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    I have some girls in the office that would enjoy that picture of exposed skin and muscles. Is that you in the photo @visor ?. LOL!

    Anyway, I found that the head heavy racquet is easier on my usual tennis elbow, compared to a head light racquet.
    With a HH racquet, I use more follow-through action now with the HH racquet rather than a quick wrist snap for my smashes and that puts less stress on the elbow.

    Similarly, you just need to figure out what is putting so much pressure on your shoulder joint that is causing you pain there.

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    Cloud, Do You play a lot of fast and attacking doubles?

    If you could count the number of times a session you swing your racket back and forth hard will answer

    Badminton stroke should be natural and pain free. If u can stand on a spot and go through your current badminton stroke; a back swing which continues to a forward swing... Now repeat that process continuously in high pace for 1 minute...

    If you do not feel extreme pain in your biceps after the one minute then the stroke is doing u no harm but chances are you may reconsider a different technique.
    Last edited by jug8man; 02-11-2015 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leongwaipak View Post
    I have some girls in the office that would enjoy that picture of exposed skin and muscles. Is that you in the photo @visor ?. LOL!
    Lol... I wish...

    Found it in Google search

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Lol... I wish...

    Found it in Google search
    Haha.

    Anyway @Cloudx it does sound like you have shoulder socket injury. I had that same issue when I was starting badminton and using more of a tennis like smash. It's similar to throwing a ball with your arm. Very easy to get injured.

    You have to try and use less of your whole arm and focus more in the pronation of the forearm and following through with your stroke.
    The follow through helps with my tennis elbow even though I'm using HH stiff racquet (zf2 3u and 4u).
    Good luck mate with your shoulder.

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