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    REGULATIONS FOR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=422678&dl=1

    7. SEEDING
    The World Championships shall be seeded in accordance with Competition Regulation 12 based on the
    World Ranking as stated in the date lines in Annexure I, except that the number of seeds shall be 16 in all events.



    General Competiton Regulations
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=464370&dl=1


    12.8 The top two seeded entries shall be dealt with as follows:
    12.8.1 number 1 placed at the top of the draw; and
    12.8.2 number 2 placed at the bottom of the draw.


    12.10 Separation of Entries
    12.10.1 the first and second ranked entries from any one Member Association shall be drawn by lot in opposite halves of the draw;
    12.10.2 the ranking of entries from a Member Association can be amended by the seeding. If this is done a new ranking order is implicitly established and should be used for the purposes of Regulation 12.10.
    12.10.3 wherever possible, entries from any one Member Association shall not meet in the first round.
    Note: this method of player separation, where it is desired, is recommended for all tournaments conducted at any level of competition.


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    SEED No.1 LEE Chongwei
    SEED No.2 CHEN Long(the first ranked entry from China Member Association)
    SEED No.3 Du Pengyu(the second ranked entry from China Member Association)
    SEED No.4 Boonsak PONSANA

    DRAW
    1/4 position Lee Chongwei
    2/4 position Du Pengyu
    3/4 position Boonsak PONSANA
    4/4 position Chen long

    LIN Dan will not meet any teammate in the first round.






    WD DRAW
    1/4 position WANG Xiaoli/YU Yang
    2/4 position Kamilla RYTTER JUHL/Christinna PEDERSEN
    3/4 position MA Jin/TANG Jinhua
    4/4 position Misaki MATSUTOMO/Ayaka TAKAHASHI

    TIAN Qing/ZHAO Yunlei will be SEED No. 5

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    General Competiton Regulations
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=464370&dl=1

    12.6.2 If the two players have a World Ranking as a pair but have competed in fewer than eight tournaments in the 52 week period, an adjusted ranking is produced by taking the pair’s World Ranking points and adjusting as follows:
    Number of tournaments played in
    Adjust by multiplying by:

    12.6.3 The resulting notional ranking as in 12.6.1 or adjusted ranking as in 12.6.2 is used to determine the seeding position.
    12.6.4 A pair may have a seeding from one to four on the basis of any World Ranking but a seeding no higher than five based on any notional ranking and / or adjusted ranking. This only applies in the main draw.However, if the number of players / pairs having world ranking is less than the permissible number of seeding places, the remaining seeding places can be based on the notional or adjusted world ranking
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    12.10.3 wherever possible, entries from any one Member Association shall not meet in the first round.
    Note: this method of player separation, where it is desired, is recommended for all tournaments conducted at any level of competition.
    Somehow, this does not seem to apply to qualification rounds or qualifiers made into the main draw.

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    That's why they call it "shall not meet in the first round", and not "shall not meet in the qualification rounds" ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by abedeng View Post
    That's why they call it "shall not meet in the first round", and not "shall not meet in the qualification rounds" ......
    Yeah, but I think the spirit of the rule is to avoid having player from the same BA taking each other out way too early.

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    No qualification rounds in wc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportstar View Post
    No qualification rounds in wc
    Not the WC but this rule is in the "General Competition Regulations" section which is applicable to all tournaments.

    As abedeng pointed out, the rule talks about the first round only. But it makes sense to extend this idea to the qualification rounds and qualifiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedShuttle View Post
    Not the WC but this rule is in the "General Competition Regulations" section which is applicable to all tournaments.

    As abedeng pointed out, the rule talks about the first round only. But it makes sense to extend this idea to the qualification rounds and qualifiers.

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    Qualifying draw

    13.5 The draw for the qualifying competition shall be done in accordance with Regulations 12.1 and 12.4.
    13.6 Any seeding in the qualifying draw shall be done in accordance with Regulations 12.5 to 12.9.
    13.7 It is recommended that as far as is practicable, entry separation (as in Regulation 12.10) should be used in each qualifying draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedShuttle View Post
    Not the WC but this rule is in the "General Competition Regulations" section which is applicable to all tournaments.

    As abedeng pointed out, the rule talks about the first round only. But it makes sense to extend this idea to the qualification rounds and qualifiers.
    the problem is for the 'normal' t'ment the qualification rounds are mainly from the host country thus make it almost impossible for them not meet in the qualification rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    the problem is for the 'normal' t'ment the qualification rounds are mainly from the host country thus make it almost impossible for them not meet in the qualification rounds.
    e.g. the MS qualifications for the 2013 India Open

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    the problem is for the 'normal' t'ment the qualification rounds are mainly from the host country thus make it almost impossible for them not meet in the qualification rounds.
    Your point is well taken. Not much can be done for local entries especially for tournaments that are not well attended by foreign players.

    My concern is mainly for foreign players who travel a long way to the tournament. In your IO2013 example, it wouldn't be good if Joachim Persson came through and had to face Jan O Jorgensen in the round of 32.

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    update

    wd world ranking has changed
    Misaki MATSUTOMO/Ayaka TAKAHASHI fall to ranking No.3


    WD DRAW
    So WD 2/4 and 3/4 positions are not confirmed yet
    They need to be drawn by a lot.



    TIAN Qing/ZHAO Yunlei will be SEED No. 5
    Miyuki MAEDA/Satoko SUETSUNA SEED No. 6
    BAO Yixin/ZHONG Qianxin SEED No. 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportstar View Post
    update

    wd world ranking has changed
    Misaki MATSUTOMO/Ayaka TAKAHASHI fall to ranking No.3


    WD DRAW
    So WD 2/4 and 3/4 positions are not confirmed yet
    They need to be drawn by a lot.



    TIAN Qing/ZHAO Yunlei will be SEED No. 5
    Miyuki MAEDA/Satoko SUETSUNA SEED No. 6
    BAO Yixin/ZHONG Qianxin SEED No. 7
    Is ZHONG Qianxin fully recovered and ready to play in a tournament as keen as WC?

    If so, it'll be interesting to watch how well she does with her usual pair, BAO Yixin.... a pair that at their top form can beat any pair of the ROW.

    Btw, what's the cut-off World Ranking to use in determining the player's seeded positions? Is the current WR dated on 2013-07-11 the latest one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelana View Post
    Is ZHONG Qianxin fully recovered and ready to play in a tournament as keen as WC?

    If so, it'll be interesting to watch how well she does with her usual pair, BAO Yixin.... a pair that at their top form can beat any pair of the ROW. Btw, what's the cut-off World Ranking to use in determining the player's seeded positions? Is the current WR dated on 2013-07-11 the latest one?
    I don't think they are in tip top shape yet. I was looking for them to easily win the US Open but they cut it close with Reika Kakiiwa and Miyuki Maeda (18 and 19) and kept it close against their young compatriots in finals (17, 24-22).

    And I believe it'll be the 18th is the last one.

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    Yes, 18th July is the deadline http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=24526 :

    Phase 3
    Mon, 03 June 2013:

    • Confirmation to the players from the Reserves List

    Thurs, 18 July 2013:

    • World Ranking to determine seeds

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    I think, now that Lin Dan's been given the wild card, the next right and proper thing for BWF to do is to seed him at least 8th if not 3/4th so as to be fair to all the other seeded participants, not so much for his sake.

    OTOH, it may not be such a bad thing for Lin Dan and Lee CW to match up in the very 1st round - a do or die situation for this two titans would be a rousing start, a great spectacle, a most appetizing opening treat to the WC for the spectators. After all, they both want to be world champion, not runner-up,so for this occasion (not every time),it may not matter much whether they duel in R1 or in the final.

    Then,who knows,we may get to see another finale featuring either Lin Dan or Lee CW vs Chen Long or some other worthy opponent.

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    The last tournament for WR deadline to determine seeding position is USA GP Gold which finished last Saturday. Nguyen Tien Minh moves on 2 rungs to #7, only MS category has changed from last week top-10 WR. Waiting the draw on 22nd July

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    Yup, 4 more days to the draw.
    An intense weekend.

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