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    My prediction for this year WC winners are:

    (1) MS: LCW
    (2) WS: LXR
    (3) MD: hard to say
    (4) WD: TQ/ZYL
    (5) XD: ZYL/ZN

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    I think Korean and Japanese pairs are good chance to meet in the final

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    My Prediction is:

    MS: LCW
    WS: LXR
    MD: LYD/YYS
    WD: YY/WXL
    XD: ZN/ZYL

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    DuPY packed his bags after Thomas Cup!!!

    http://home.ttymq.com/space-63268-do-blog-id-91663.html

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    MS: LCW
    WS: WSX
    MD: LYD/YYS
    WD: YY/wXL
    XD: ZN/ZYL

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    Has the team for Asian Games be decided yet? If it were me, I'd send:

    LD/CL
    LXR/WSX
    ZN/FHF, CB/HW
    WXL/YY, ZYL/TQ
    ZN/ZYL, MJ/XC

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    The team to be sent to Asian Games has been decided. Justin posted it some time back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    CHN's lineup for the upcoming Asian Games 2014 as reported here http://sports.qq.com/a/20140720/020555.htm

    MS: Chen Long, Tian Houwei, Lin Dan, and Gao Huan - Li Yongbo explained that both Du Pengyu and Wang Zhengming are dropped so as to enable more flexibility in fielding Lin Dan as MS2 or MS3 as needed, meaning it could be MS1 Chen Long, MS2 Tian HW, MS3 Lin Dan or MS1 Chen Long, MS2 Lin Dan and MS3 Gao Huan;

    WS: Li Xuerui, Wang Shixian, Wang Yihan and Liu Xin who replaced Sun Yu;

    MD: Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng re-formed their partnership, Liu Xiaolong/Qiu Zihan, and Xu Chen with Zhang Nan, while Chai Biao/Hong Wei are dropped;

    WD: Yu Yang back with Wang Xiaoli, Tang Jnhua/Bao Yixin, and Ma Jin replacing Tian Qing to partner Zhao Yunlei.

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    I really think Zhang Jun needs to be fired and hire a new foreign coach to coach MD. Chinese MD is just embarrassing to watch. They have no new ideas, try to do the same old broken strategies, can't hit simple net shot, have no gameplan for the service situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhuangcorp View Post
    I really think Zhang Jun needs to be fired and hire a new foreign coach to coach MD. Chinese MD is just embarrassing to watch. They have no new ideas, try to do the same old broken strategies, can't hit simple net shot, have no gameplan for the service situations.
    You are right, the results point to a need for a change. Chinas doubles game has been mediocre and straightforward making it easy for their opponents to read and overcome them. its been so long now and there is no improvement in their standard of doubles play. Look at the Japananes team. They have improved in all departments and its due to their Korean and Indonesian coaches.

    Its very evident everytime the chinese doubles play you cant help feeling oh dear here we go again defend, defend and defend with no idea how to turn it around They do try as hard as possible but they cant break through. They feel psychologically and mentally weak facing their opponents.

    Its time to add some foreign ''dna'' into their doubles play to give it some ''sparkle'' so to speak.
    Chinas singlers play was influenced by Indonesian returnees so there is a precedent for this..


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    Li Yongbo has revealed by way of explanation the reasons for the defeats of Wang Yihan, Wang Shixian and Bao Yixin/Tang Jinhua http://sports.qq.com/a/20140830/005496.htm - all of them suffered injuries that severely affected their systematic training.

    It turned out that Wang YH pulled her thigh muscle during training at Shenyang, for a physical player like her, it seriously hampered her movement and speed.

    For Wang SX, she had some health problems which required her to rest for 40 (forty) days and only resumed intensive training for the last 10 over days before the WC. (No wonder WSX looked unusually tired in the match with Sindhu).

    As for Tang Jinhua, she injured her hand, the triangular cartilage plate, that's why you could see her unable to execute certain shots fully and effectively.

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    Asian Games is only a few weeks away. Here're my thoughts on the Chinese Men's Singles.

    Lin Dan is still the hot favourite for the Asian Games 2014 and Rio 2016.

    Chen Long is still the heir apparent despite what happened in Thomas Cup. If CL loses against LCW tomorrow (ie, WC2014 final), I think CL will still be the heir apparent since Du PY is gone and WZM is not very promising.

    I guess Du PY realised after Thomas Cup 2014 that he had no chance to go to Rio as LYB can only send two players to Rio in 2016. In retrospect, I think Du PY's decision to leave was the correct one since he is 26 now, and there isn't much room for advancement for him whether before or after Rio 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Li Yongbo has revealed by way of explanation the reasons for the defeats of Wang Yihan, Wang Shixian and Bao Yixin/Tang Jinhua http://sports.qq.com/a/20140830/005496.htm - all of them suffered injuries that severely affected their systematic training.

    It turned out that Wang YH pulled her thigh muscle during training at Shenyang, for a physical player like her, it seriously hampered her movement and speed.

    For Wang SX, she had some health problems which required her to rest for 40 (forty) days and only resumed intensive training for the last 10 over days before the WC. (No wonder WSX looked unusually tired in the match with Sindhu).

    As for Tang Jinhua, she injured her hand, the triangular cartilage plate, that's why you could see her unable to execute certain shots fully and effectively.
    Thank You for the information. It explains a lot for their performance, Best wishes for a speedy recovery to all of them.

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    Normally, CBA don't talk about the players' conditions before the majors as that would more likely increase the confidence of their rivals.

    Another point is, as I understand him, Li Yongbo is an exacting boss who expects the best from his charges and will never accept any excuses for poor performances except for injuries or sicknesses. That's understandable for CHN has so many promising players waiting in the wings and,most importantly, it's his duty and responsibility to maintain CHN's status as the badminton superpower or risk having himself replaced as Head Coach.

    Remember, I once reported LYB saying that any of his MS players winning a tournament without LCW's participation doesn't really count for much in his eyes. That alone should tell us he's not one to give excuses for any of his team member performing below his expectations.

    Also, early this year, when he summarised CHN's 2013 performance he was openly critical of the whole team stating that 2013 was CHN's worst performance in a decade. He put it down to the entire team resting on their laurels and generally relaxing too much after the LOG 2012 clean sweep, for which he partly accepted the blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Normally, CBA don't talk about the players' conditions before the majors as that would more likely increase the confidence of their rivals.

    Another point is, as I understand him, Li Yongbo is an exacting boss who expects the best from his charges and will never accept any excuses for poor performances except for injuries or sicknesses. That's understandable for CHN has so many promising players waiting in the wings and,most importantly, it's his duty and responsibility to maintain CHN's status as the badminton superpower or risk having himself replaced as Head Coach.

    Remember, I once reported LYB saying that any of his MS players winning a tournament without LCW's participation doesn't really count for much in his eyes. That alone should tell us he's not one to give excuses for any of his team member performing below his expectations.

    Also, early this year, when he summarised CHN's 2013 performance he was openly critical of the whole team stating that 2013 was CHN's worst performance in a decade. He put it down to the entire team resting on their laurels and generally relaxing too much after the LOG 2012 clean sweep, for which he partly accepted the blame.
    Sorry to go on about this issue but just to summarise my main ''grudge'' points:

    a) The succession plan/programme re the juniours is not great and as a chinese juniour I would be unhappy at waiting in the wings until I am 20 years old or when I beat LCW. Both targets are pretty demoralising to say the least.

    b) The mens doubles are reaching a stage where the teams may feel psychologically inferior to their rivals; they lack the confidence and aggressiveness of the Indonesians; the efficiency and precisiveness of the Koreans and the determination and belief that the japanese have in their play. .

    The young chinese doubles players have very good speed and smashes but something is very noticeably lacking in their play.

    c) I also feel that LYB's comments are very demoralising for his players. You should not use LCW as a
    measurement of success. One, you cant get into the competition as a lower ranked player and another is that you are not given much chance to get into a tournament in the first place.

    Lastly what are you doing about it? Some of your ''buddies'' are responsible foe this situation and the ''talking'' is over and changes are sorely needed.

    I may be wrong but these are my humble observations.
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    Not to worry, after Liu/Qiu, the remaining CHN MD hope in the WC'14 , is quashed, Li Yongbo has come out again to express his strong desire to do something about the MD department.

    Don't forget, MD is important in team championships such as the Thomas Cup, Sudirman Cup and the Asian Games which CHN values a lot, even more than the individual championships.

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    While LYB only see numbers, wins and success -which is pretty typical for chinese - we can summarize the things he forgets: the interpersonal things
    This summarize the whole comment of antssantss, I think.

    While a LD can stand out this attitude of LYB, others can't. Not because they're mentally really bad, but because they didn't sold their whole soul like LD did for the chinese military for example.
    Serving for the CBA might be a great honor, but don't you also want to be treated as a human?

    However. Most Chinese were and are always performance-oriented, that's why we see this attitude in CBA too. It's an attitude which shows a lot of greatness. It's an attitude which raised the country. I also understand LYB's way. But this way also has a shady side...
    It should be a demand for the coach to find right mix between performance and human being. With statements like "if you don't win over LCW or win a tournament without LCW, it doesn't count", he just acts like a stubborn d*ckh... whatever...!

    (I have chn. roots, so don't call me racist or whatever *lol*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin L View Post
    Not to worry, after Liu/Qiu, the remaining CHN MD hope in the WC'14 , is quashed, Li Yongbo has come out again to express his strong desire to do something about the MD department.

    Don't forget, MD is important in team championships such as the Thomas Cup, Sudirman Cup and the Asian Games which CHN values a lot, even more than the individual championships.
    What did LYB say he would change about MD?

    LYB, please please please hire a Korean MD coach. Look at how strong and efficient Korean MD is, 3 Korean pairs in the SF and 2 in the Final. Korea has so many strong MD players, and their style seems very intelligent and thoughtful.

    Even historically Korea has so many great MD players, Park Joo Bong, Kim Dong Moon, etc.

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