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    If they didn't dope, and they receive a 1 year ban, that's pretty harsh. A fine and a few months should have been the punishment (if any ban at all).

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    The ban was already reduced from 2 to 1 yr. For possibly evading tests, that's harsh but probably not in a post Lance Armstrong world.

    WADA and BWF probably just wants to make an example of Lee and Kim to show the other players this is what would happen if you frig around with us.

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    Accordingly to Korean news, the associations (and players too I think) are able to notify the WADA by internet if they are away from the given addresses.

    It also seems that everything is basically run by the Korean Badminton Association, even into the smallest detail of scheduling.

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    just give them another 48 hours to be back at the testing site and take the tests...48hrs should be enough to get back from anywhere right? if LYD can't play, MD and XD will be boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingu View Post
    Accordingly to Korean news, the associations (and players too I think) are able to notify the WADA by internet if they are away from the given addresses.

    It also seems that everything is basically run by the Korean Badminton Association, even into the smallest detail of scheduling.
    Indeed they are, there's a website for them to update their details (flight details, timings, contact number, address, etc) if they have to leave their usual city for some reason.

    It should also be noted that they could have been penalized for simply being late to the test, instead of totally missing it. Apparently the WADA can call you up in the middle of the night to request a test as early as 6/7am in the morning, if you miss the call or for whatever reason cannot reach the given address on time, its a violation too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    Personally, I believe this is nonsense. It's good that the anti-doping rules are followed strictly and that there is a clear effort to keep the sport clean, but the rules are too restrictive. Also, an athlete missing a test due to bureaucratic mistakes is another thing entirely than one testing positive. Banning the two for a year is too much in my eyes - it takes away a huge chunk of their career and they probably didn't do anything wrong intentionally. I find it ridiculous that individual athletes can be held responsible for their ntl association's shortcomings...
    it is hard to say.

    look at it in another way, many performance enhancing drug program are not conducted by one individual, but as a program for the whole team. if the national organization could be in it together, it would make sense to make the rule in such a way that the team management cannot have a way to wiggle the athlete out of the system, "oh yeah, we forgot to tell him, sorry, we will do it next time, bye."

    however unfortunate this incident is, i believe the rule was laid out and to show fairness must be invoked. otherwise no one will ever take the antidoping program seriously for that point on. it is just unfortunate that it happens to such a high profile player.

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    It's strange only these 2 players had problems scheduling the tests. If it was an honest mistake, I feel sorry for them. But in most of these cases - they are avoiding the tests. In my opinion top level athletes in any sports are doing something that's borderline illegal - just too tough to compete in high levels without help.
    Surprised they would name such a high profile athlete - usually you would sweep it under the rug and grab a low level guy and throw him/her under the bus - like they do in tennis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    The ban was already reduced from 2 to 1 yr. For possibly evading tests, that's harsh but probably not in a post Lance Armstrong world.

    WADA and BWF probably just wants to make an example of Lee and Kim to show the other players this is what would happen if you frig around with us.
    I think Lance Armstrong's case has nothing to do with it. Plenty of high profile examples already took place in athletics and even cycling with Michael Rasmussen from the Rabobank team well before the Armstrong confession.
    In the end the athletes themselves are responsible for keeping there whereabouts up to date and as mentioned have the possibility to do so through a website.
    It's not even that hard a requirement I see now: you just have to fill in one 1-hour timeslot between 6AM and 11PM where you are available for a test.

    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    just give them another 48 hours to be back at the testing site and take the tests...48hrs should be enough to get back from anywhere right? if LYD can't play, MD and XD will be boring.
    48 hours?! You could probably clean up a lot of traces in such a long timeframe, maybe complete a full blood transfusion even ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
    I think Lance Armstrong's case has nothing to do with it. Plenty of high profile examples already took place in athletics and even cycling with Michael Rasmussen from the Rabobank team well before the Armstrong confession.
    In the end the athletes themselves are responsible for keeping there whereabouts up to date and as mentioned have the possibility to do so through a website.
    It's not even that hard a requirement I see now: you just have to fill in one 1-hour timeslot between 6AM and 11PM where you are available for a test.



    48 hours?! You could probably clean up a lot of traces in such a long timeframe, maybe complete a full blood transfusion even ...
    oh i was thinking if they were on the other side of the globe and needed to travel back from vacation or something, but i have neglect to think that they probably don't go on vacation often as they are either playing in a tournament or training

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    It is quite easy to see where this can go wrong when the national federation does it for an athlete: an unexpected change of plans and a slow update to the administration coupled with some bad luck of being picked for testing at precisely the wrong moment and there you have it. Three times in eighteen months though really should not have been allowed to happen ...

    Quote Originally Posted by gundamzaku View Post
    oh i was thinking if they were on the other side of the globe and needed to travel back from vacation or something, but i have neglect to think that they probably don't go on vacation often as they are either playing in a tournament or training
    . If you are on vacation then usually it is a planned one and that is where your "whereabout" should be. Maybe the federation just puts in the hourly slot during one of the daily practice sessions and when a LYD or KKJ is out for a photoshoot they forget to update it ... Well probably not KKJ (was thinking of another Jung)
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    This is bad for the game...MD is already bad for spectators with 1-2 shot rally matches these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ch1k0 View Post
    Well looks like there go the chances for Asian games medals for Korea in MD
    Maybe KBA should recall Ko Sung-Hyun back early for Asian Games.

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    Recalling him wouldn't be an issue if he's on the sangmu team just like YYS is. Too enlisted slightly earlier and he was back playing in international competitions in about 5 months was it?

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    Doping is legal until being caught! The professional competition includes the technologies utilizing the performance enhanced substances without being caught. Unfortunately, hiding is not an effective technique for that.

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    SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea's Olympic badminton gold medallist Lee Yong-dae has been hit with a one-year ban for missing doping tests, the Badminton World Federation (BWF) said on Tuesday.

    The 25-year-old won mixed doubles gold at the 2008 Games in Beijing and a bronze medal in the men's doubles in London four years later. Another Korean player, Kim Ki-jung, was also banned for one year.

    The ban was effective until January 23, 2015, the federation said in a statement, meaning the players would miss the Asian Games in Incheon later this year.


    "Korean badminton players Kim Ki-jung and Lee Yong-dae have each received a one-year sanction for violating the requirements relating to filing whereabouts information and resulting missed tests under the BWF Anti-Doping Regulations," the BWF said.


    "Kim and Lee were required to provide whereabouts information for the BWF to conduct out-of-competition testing. In 2013, both athletes accumulated three whereabouts failures in connection with this administrative process."


    The BWF said it chose not to dish out the maximum two-year ban "due to the Badminton Korea Association's failure ... to make diligent efforts to keep the BWF informed about the players' whereabouts."


    A doping hearing panel recommended that the Korean association should be fined and the BWF said it would determine whether additional sanctions were appropriate.

    Both players had the right to appeal the decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, the statement said.

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    Kim Jung-soo, executive director of Korean badminton, told a news conference later on Tuesday that the two players would never intentionally miss doping tests.

    "When the WADA inspectors visited the Taeneung National Training Centre in March and November last year, Lee and Kim were not there as they were participating in local and international competitions," Kim said.


    "We failed to submit a whereabouts report online last September as well.


    "Kim and Lee have never used banned substances and did not reject or intentionally avoid testing.

    They have participated in a number of international competitions and passed all the tests every time.


    "It is hard to understand that they are punished just because they were not present when the inspectors came to check their whereabouts without prior notice."


    Kim said the association would "aggressively" appeal the case to seek a reduction in the bans to three-six months from one year so the players Kim could compete in the September 19 to October 4
    Asian Games on home soil.

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    I remember reading American athletes Lindsay Vonn got test when she was in an Award Event and Lolo Jones got tested on her birthday last year:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3390681.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3715360.html

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    ^ Sheesh... Is there no decency to it...

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