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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    Better spend your time on gardening.
    I do find the WD and XD finals rather entertaining and WSX was in commanding form but JOJ
    looks like a clown and TBH/KKK are clowns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
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    XD: As usual when Zhang Nan / Zhao Yunlei and Xu Chen / Ma Jin steps into the same 20'x44' rectangle, there will be some sparks. There is no match-fixing here everyone. The speed of Ma Jin at the net is jawbreaking, her vision/anticipation, reaction, speed and quality of execution is an absolutely joy to watch. add to that her completely cucumber coolness as if she is saying, "dude, i do this for breakfast" is slowing making her one of my favorite XD ladies player around. the only flaw in their pairing is a often shaky Xu Chen. Not to take too much attention away, Zhang Nan / Zhao Yunlei did win but only marginally after a 28-26 first game. the synergy between the two Z's is flawless. their advantage over X/M is marginal and some of which has to do with them being a more balanced pair.
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    Even the commentators said XC kept on tryng to beat the opponents using his power only. After the first game, XC looked exhausted already. They played over 90 points, and how many times did XC smash? I bet he smashed at least 400 times. And he covered 3/4 of the court the whole game. Poor XC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qidong View Post
    Even the commentators said XC kept on tryng to beat the opponents using his power only. After the first game, XC looked exhausted already. They played over 90 points, and how many times did XC smash? I bet he smashed at least 400 times. And he covered 3/4 of the court the whole game. Poor XC.
    just imagine. put Zhang Nan together with Ma Jin. they will be invincible.

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    I agree with the boss on Ma Jin. I caught only a little of the Finals match (the game that went into the high 20s). But during the bit that I did see, I called in my boys to watch Ma Jin: Always on her toes; always moving; quick as lightening at the net; and good defense too.
    In my books she was the most worthy player to watch on the court.

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    ^ Even though Ma may be the best female forecourt player currently, the winning trend now goes to more balanced pairs that are good at both front and back that are able to maintain attack in all formations. Like Zhang/Zhao.

    Similarly MD, Koo/Tan, Cai/Fu, Lee/Jung were becoming easily neutralized by more balanced pairs . Like Ahsan/Setiawan. Even the new Lee/Yoo pairing is better than with Ko because of it.
    Last edited by visor; 10-28-2013 at 09:57 PM.

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    I think Zhao is very underrated here. She plays extremely clever, has literally no weaknesses.
    And Zhang is simply the best MX player in the world.
    I think his success speaks for itself (he's only 23 years of age and already Olympic- World- and All England Champion...).
    If they are at their best, no one can beat them right now.

    KKK: Maybe the most talented guy around. Unfortunately, not the most ambitious one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_a_d_e View Post
    i dont understand with Koo/Tan, seriously i thought they will fight to die for the title, either the INA Pair was just too good for them or they seems not really want it. after a long wait for the title and with so many people have doubt in them, i was thinking this is gonna be their resurrection, maybe the decision not to split them was a good call but after this final i can see the motivation is not there nor hunger for the win. I just feel sorry for them, with those kind of skills they should win more prestigious title
    Winning is about desire, hard work as well as skills. So they don't win. Thankfully, I haven't wasted my time watching the final - missed it totally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    Winning is about desire, hard work as well as skills. So they don't win. Thankfully, I haven't wasted my time watching the final - missed it totally
    Me too. I only watched the MS & WS. Skipped the other 3.

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    The way WSX beat Porntip in the final was remarkable, proof positive of how much she has changed and improved now, but even more impressive was the manner she dealt with Intanon R in the QF, including her extended shutout of Bae YJ in the SF.

    Personally I've watched the replays of her matches with IR and Porntip twice and BYJ once just to see if she has really changed and improved considerably - the answer is affirmative, even her body language says so; renewed confidence, self-assurance and control, more focused and steady, better patience, all of which translate into playing with more intensity and incremental consistency. However, still plenty of room for improvement, this is just the beginning of her revival; a very healthy sign, nevertheless.

    As for the all-CHN XD final, it has everything a Grand Finale can hope for, period.

    Both the MS and WS finals involved four contestants who each have their own motivation and point to make thus contributing to their fair share of errors as well as brilliancies due to jangled nerves, a heightened sense of urgency, and the pressure of the burden of expectation - factors normally affecting the big occasions but in full play here much to the delight of the spectators and TV/Internet viewers.

    On the MD final, I can do no better than congratulate INA for the emergence of another rising star MD pair. As for the defeated MAS pair, keep trying, don't be disheartened and better luck next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nizze View Post
    true.. true.. no drive to win
    Quote Originally Posted by celeng View Post
    no drive to win? of course they want to win. but they can't do it.
    Quote Originally Posted by nizze View Post
    well... they can't do it because it seems like they are not committed to go all out and want to do it i.e. to win.

    Say if you are having a bad day, you tried your best but your shots are not working. I believe the audience can see your effort, its just that you are not in form. Vice versa, the audience can also clearly see if you are disinterested and not giving your all.
    of course anyone *want* to win. it is a SS final afterall. however, for the amount of effort, it felt like they walked into a shop and pointed at the US$500 smartphone and they told the salesguy, "i WANT that phone, but i am only willing to pay US$100 for it."

    of course they are going to come out empty handed.

    to want is easy, to actually get/win it, need to pay money/effort.

    i see no sense of them paying enough effort, too casual, too little urgency, too lazy. with that kind of mentality, i doubt they will achieve much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    of course anyone *want* to win. it is a SS final afterall. however, for the amount of effort, it felt like they walked into a shop and pointed at the US$500 smartphone and they told the salesguy, "i WANT that phone, but i am only willing to pay US$100 for it."

    of course they are going to come out empty handed.

    to want is easy, to actually get/win it, need to pay money/effort.

    i see no sense of them paying enough effort, too casual, too little urgency, too lazy. with that kind of mentality, i doubt they will achieve much.
    Point taken... i should rephrase => "they can't do it because it seems like they are not committed to go all out and do it i.e. to win"

    Agree on your point about their behaviour on court. That's what puzzles me.. why are they still playing together if that is their mentality?

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