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    Default The effect of overall weight?

    Why are some players using heavy rackets (like 2-3 U)? isn't what matters most for power head weight/head heavyness? wouldn't it make more sense to use a super light racket (say 5U) but with a very heavy head to get the same power or swingweight but spend less energy on moving the racket?

    why are some players using heavier rackets instead of more head heavy rackets?

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    it's all a question of style and preferences...;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominikk1985 View Post
    Why are some players using heavy rackets (like 2-3 U)? isn't what matters most for power head weight/head heavyness? wouldn't it make more sense to use a super light racket (say 5U) but with a very heavy head to get the same power or swingweight but spend less energy on moving the racket?

    why are some players using heavier rackets instead of more head heavy rackets?
    I don't think the materials they have could cope with it yet?
    I personally would love to try a 6u, 320+mm balance point racket.

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    ^i agree that they might not have found the right material to make it really light and really head heavy at the same time, without the head snapping right off if someone whips the racket.

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    As above, but another important factor is probably cost. You can probably make such a racquet out of very thin graphene for instance, but it would be too expensive for your average consumer. Plus you may question whether it would be durable enough in a clash or give the right feel for badminton.

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    wouldn't a head heavy racket be more durable? they usually break in the head and not at the shaft, right?

    so a more massive head and thinner/lighter shaft and grip should help in theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominikk1985 View Post
    wouldn't a head heavy racket be more durable? they usually break in the head and not at the shaft, right?

    so a more massive head and thinner/lighter shaft and grip should help in theory.
    Usually yes but a 320+mmBP 6u racket is not a usual racket.

    I have seen for example WWK snap an Addidas racket at the shaft with nowhere near as extreme a measurements.

    The theory of thinner/lighter shafts is nice but what material is strong enough to go thinner and lighter along with handling extreme high BP points to simulate a e.g Zforce swing weight?(would have to be affordable obviously, end product under£200)
    I am assuming the manufacturers have not solved it yet.

    Anybody know what the lightest >319mm Bp racket on the market currently weighs?
    Last edited by craigandy; 10-29-2013 at 12:57 PM.

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    ^ 4U VTZF, I had one with bp 316mm, dry wt 82.3g, head wt 38.5g

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    Try checking out a Gosen Mirapro 700/800, bp is around 31+. Not sure abt dry weight but holding it in the store feels like a THOR's hammer (very light handle, carbon). Anyone w/ a Mirapro to confirm on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    ^ 4U VTZF, I had one with bp 316mm, dry wt 82.3g, head wt 38.5g
    I take it that a 4u at 316mm would have a lower swing weight than a 3u at 316mm so for a 6u to have any resemblance I am thinking 330mm+ BP for a 74grams Racket? Anything even close to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sautom88 View Post
    Try checking out a Gosen Mirapro 700/800, bp is around 31+. Not sure abt dry weight but holding it in the store feels like a THOR's hammer (very light handle, carbon). Anyone w/ a Mirapro to confirm on this?
    Read:
    Gosen mirapro 700 only 285mm-290
    gosen mirapro 800 only 290-295mm
    http://www.playgroundonline.com/prod...uet/10865.aspx
    http://www.playgroundonline.com/prod...uet/10864.aspx

    and quite heavy at 84g

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigandy View Post
    Read:
    Gosen mirapro 700 only 285mm-290
    gosen mirapro 800 only 290-295mm
    http://www.playgroundonline.com/prod...uet/10865.aspx
    http://www.playgroundonline.com/prod...uet/10864.aspx

    and quite heavy at 84g
    That is not the actual b/p, its only in written specs. I balanced it on my finger n measured using the floor tile of the store n i know its abt 31-32cm. I owned n tried over 20 rackets for the past 3 years n have yet felt anything so head heavy, xcept maybe Zforce. But this one is very lopsided head-heaviness because of its 'carbon' handle (I believe its just plastic, albeit good plastic)

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    I believe Wilson also have an lightweight racket (with the handle made from carbon fiber or something) and a head heavy balance.

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    so is it purely a technical issue?

    would pros play super light, super head heavy rackets if they where available? aren't most pros using 2-3U rackets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sautom88 View Post
    Try checking out a Gosen Mirapro 700/800, bp is around 31+. Not sure abt dry weight but holding it in the store feels like a THOR's hammer (very light handle, carbon). Anyone w/ a Mirapro to confirm on this?
    Without the grip probably yes, but due to their carbon handle it need several layer of overgrip to reach G5 size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominikk1985 View Post
    so is it purely a technical issue?

    would pros play super light, super head heavy rackets if they where available? aren't most pros using 2-3U rackets?
    If you would use a very head heavy and superlight racket let's say a 75 g overall weight and a head weight of 36 g, you wouldn't get an advantage. If you swing the racket you must accelarate the headweight, which would be the same mass of a head slightly headheavy to even balance 4U. You mostly decrease the mass in the handle, lower shaft and cone, so it wouldn't give you much more speed.
    You should know that a superlight and headheavy racket distribute the mass different and the mass at the head area is significant lower due the relation between head weight and overall weight. Such a combination will not give you a big punch on your smash with a really good defence. If you want to get something, you will lost something at same time.
    I think most singles pro's use a 3U or maybe 2U racket. Most doubles players a 3U or 4U racket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominikk1985 View Post
    so is it purely a technical issue?

    would pros play super light, super head heavy rackets if they where available? aren't most pros using 2-3U rackets?
    most pros use whatever their sponsor tells them to use...;-)
    i think carsten mogensen regularly switches from flash boost to voltric zf, 2 rackets that couldn't be further apart.

    lesson learned: don't bother too much about the racket. better invest the time (and money) into training and coaching to foster your skills.

    it won't make you a better player if your racket is 2g lighter or heavier or if the balance point is 2mm further to this or that side.

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