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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    Victor have started to use "response indicators" in addition to stiffness ratings - the former takes into account such things as balance and shaft length (we would say a NS9000X "plays" stiffer than an AT900P, for example, even though the stiffness is the same).

    Good move, IMO.
    I notice that. How does one interpret the response indicator rating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider View Post
    I notice that. How does one interpret the response indicator rating?
    "Playing stiffness" would be closest, I think.

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    I understand the response indicator now.

    Whilst TK9000 and 6000 have the same specs, the longer handle and shorter shaft on 9000 means the shaft will play stiffer. I can confirm having played with both rackets that this is true and TK9000 feels stiffer than TK6000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    I understand the response indicator now.

    Whilst TK9000 and 6000 have the same specs, the longer handle and shorter shaft on 9000 means the shaft will play stiffer. I can confirm having played with both rackets that this is true and TK9000 feels stiffer than TK6000.

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    I've just emailed our friend in Germany...
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    Well, I've had a few good hours with this beauty and so now I have to put pen to paper and write my review.

    Without giving the game away too much ...I LOVE this racket!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Well, I've had a few good hours with this beauty and so now I have to put pen to paper and write my review.

    Without giving the game away too much ...I LOVE this racket!!!

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    Just checked downstairs... nnnnope, mine haven't turned up yet.

    *taps foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Well, I've had a few good hours with this beauty and so now I have to put pen to paper and write my review.

    Without giving the game away too much ...I LOVE this racket!!!

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    Hi Paul,
    What version were u testing? 3u or 4u?

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    I have 4U G5 strung in NS880 at 27/29lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    I have 4U G5 strung in NS880 at 27/29lbs

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    Do you think the 4u would make a good doubles racquet?

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    DB - I only play doubles and at my age singles is certainly a game for the younger...than me!

    Yes, it's quick and a touch faster in response due to the shorter shaft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbswansea View Post
    Do you think the 4u would make a good doubles racquet?
    Leave that one with me.

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    Hi Paul, how is TK9000 4U compared to TK6000 4U? i wonder if both come with similar specs, deliver the same beastly performances, same durability, but only different in term of appearance (color blue vs yellow), 1 word of hi-advanced technology printed on the shaft, and price, then wouldn't it be better to just purchased TK6000 instead? 3 pcs of TK9000 = 4pcs of TK6000 here in Thailand, except rumor has it that Victor has worldwidely discontinued to produce 3U version of TK6000 (but made it available in TK9000 instead), which is very unfortunate for 3U lover like myself.

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    Arfandy

    This is down to taste. I like both rackets but I lean towards the stiffer version as that's what I generally prefer. Whilst I agree about price, there is enough difference to decide which racket suits best. I ran a demo session yesterday and the two rackets the guy picked were TK6000 and 9000. Eventually he selected 9000 without any influence from me. And, he must have tested the entire UK range (except Meteors) so he had enough rackets to choose from.

    As we only have one version of each racket, we do not have the luxury of choosing our favourite specs like you do in Asia - I wish we did. I am currently testing TK7000S and would dearly like to try 3U version, as we only have 4U. However, that's the way it is.

    Personally I'm not interested in 3U version of a stiff head heavy racket. The lighter 4U version has so many more benefits.

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    Paul,

    Thank you for the insights. Looking forward to read your written reviews on how TK9000 4U perform on your hand. 4U rackets, for my personal taste, has always been "less-durable/weaker" rackets compared to 3U version.

    Off the records, I once read (hope someday i could find the complete documentary video behind the scene of racket production) how these manufactures produce their rackets in bulk, which after QC, the "passed-the-test) ones would be marked as 3U (depending on their initial intended final weight), slightly less-heavier than expected would be marked 4U, while little-heavier than they expected would get the mark 2U (unless 2U weight is what they expected during planning phases). Of course this marking system by QC might not apply for rackets with 5U & 6U weights as they were produced intentionally light-weight. (you could always try to dry-weight 2-3 the same rackets of the same brand of the same marked 3U or 4U, and eventually the number weight won't always exactly the same). Just my 2-cent here.

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    Hi Paul, can't wait to get your detail review on TK9000..

    Anyway, i am considering should i get a TK9000 4u as i am now using MX90 and JJS.
    Hopefully after a fair review from expert i can decide go or no go..

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    Regardless of my review, it's a tough decision when you already play with two great rackets in JJS and MX90.

    In Europe we are due MX90 in around 2 weeks but sadly we will only have 4U version which is disappointing. I really wanted 3U as they tend to feel better. 4U generally feel too light except with head heavy rackets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Regardless of my review, it's a tough decision when you already play with two great rackets in JJS and MX90.

    In Europe we are due MX90 in around 2 weeks but sadly we will only have 4U version which is disappointing. I really wanted 3U as they tend to feel better. 4U generally feel too light except with head heavy rackets.

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    Hi Paul,

    Just read your review of MX90. By the sounds of it, you reviewed the 3u version. It's a shame we are only getting the 4u MX90 in UK.
    I have both 3u and 4u MX JJS and I much prefer the 3u. I also acquired a SH 4u TK6000 which I like a lot.
    In the future I want to get two or three raquets of the same kind and avoid switching between models or weight specifications. The MX90 and the TK9000 are the main raquets I'm considering but I'm reluctant about 4u MX90.
    Have you had a chance to try the 4u MX90?

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