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Thread: Playing with an arrogant player
12-24-2013, 11:18 AM #18
These things happen,yes.Nothing personal,too.I like the idea,too.I've had a lot of fun,too.You make me a bruise ,I make one back.People get really nasty at times.You deal with it depends on the circumstances;you grow with better personality,you learn from these things as well.
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12-24-2013, 08:43 PM #19
Yes, that's why, in order to prevent these antisocial characters from poisoning our playing environment, our fearless group leader is particularly selective as to who to invite to join on a regular basis. They have to pass a personality test first during the first few visits before being given the OK to join.
12-25-2013, 08:42 PM #20
12-25-2013, 08:51 PM #21
Haha... nah, it's just an informal gut feeling assessment when playing with and against them in a few games. Plus also those drop in invitees are usually friends of existing player members, so they are already socially friendly to begin with.
There were a few difficult ones (eg. calling iffy line calls in their favour, serving before the receiver is ready, overly aggressive shouting when they win a point or when their opponents make a mistake... the usual non social behaviour). These ones don't get invited back.
Last edited by visor; 12-25-2013 at 09:03 PM.
12-26-2013, 12:30 AM #22
played with this type of person last week. he said something like, don't give points to your opponent even though my opponents are beginner and woman... it meant for fun, but he wanted to finish the opponent quickly so the next players who are better than current opponents can play.
and then he criticize my gameplay like, don't do backhand (I won't do it, but since the shot aimed at my body, I can't avoid using backhand), look where is your partner..
and then when we played against better opponent.. he shut his mouth since I played much better than him. I was very pleased esp when he said "you are really good" (after I hit a very sharp drive from back court down to opponent court. it pass though right above the net)
sometimes you just need to shut their mouth by showing that you are better than them.. talk less and do more
12-26-2013, 03:23 AM #23
I was beginner 2 years ago and had my 1st social badminton then. It was unfortunate to have such person in group. After 2 years, i'm considered as intermediate-adv already. Beating him was my goal back then. It all comes down to our own attitude. How you gonna take it, or how it's gonna effect you.
For me if you are a man, man up then. Your action defines who you are. Running away isn't the best solution. If you get what i mean.
12-26-2013, 11:05 AM #24
i personally have been in both positions, one who is not so good than my opponent, and the other who is way better than my opponent. even if i play on a challenge court, my better opponents, once they see that i'm not as good, would not play as hard to prolong the rally so that it's also fun for my partner and me. and when i play with people who aren't as good as me, i generally also take it a bit easier so that the rally is also prolonged.
thank you for sharing your experience tho, it's very interesting
12-26-2013, 03:53 PM #25
he did criticize many people's gameplay, he is above average but not that good.. (we have many people that can play better than him in my group). he refused to play with anyone that he thinks below him (including me).
and yeah, the beginner (male) cannot do backhand or decent smash. the women cannot do decent serve.. usually it is very easy to kill it when she serve. so I made a rule for myself (and I think everyone follow the same). do not ever kill her serve since it is not fun. so usually I did a clear shot (to prolong the game and at least make it a little bit more interesting for the woman.)
she is improving, her serve is very high now, decent power in her forehand, but she is still learning on how to do backhand. what I wanted to show is that badminton is fun, not some cruel game that some above average players going around to crush newbie.
our group's average level increased a lot in the past 3 months. that beginner guy? at first, he could not even clear properly.. after being coached by one of my friend, he improved a lot, but still lack of doubles mindset
12-26-2013, 04:07 PM #26
12-27-2013, 10:38 AM #27
kudos to bro avenger, i will do the same as well. rallying instead of killing it, so that all can enjoy and have fun.
the part where bro avenger partner ws telling him to kill it, it is so not right.
that is one of the worst kind of attitude on court.
i always believe in guiding beginner players so that the passion do not dies off.
partnering a beginner player is something i always do, not only it improves his/her game, your strategy/tactical play will improve as well and best of all, all have fun in scoring be it winning or losing.
been to a group where nobody wants to partner him and the other 2 opponents are like trying to get him off court. i then partner him and although we lost, we won respect by playing against those 2 jokers.
beginner players need guidance if more experienced player dont guide them who will....
Last edited by Nict_26; 12-27-2013 at 10:42 AM.
12-27-2013, 10:45 AM #28
12-27-2013, 10:51 AM #29
hahaha, i can understand from your point.
so far luckily have not met this type. those i met have a willingness to improve and i have some improvements in most of them.
if their reply is like what you have describe, then i will just play my game and wish them well.
at least i have done my part in guiding them, whether they want to listen, it is their choice..
12-27-2013, 11:12 AM #30
12-27-2013, 06:58 PM #31
Newbie: knows that they are beginner and willingly to improve. IMO needs be loved by everybody since they have positive attitude toward the game / sport
Noob: pretending to be good even he is newbie and does not want to improve, does not want to take any advice from other players. this type of player should be locked in hell
usually I try few times to convince them, but if I can't then I will not gonna bother to help them anymore (until they realise they are sucks).
12-31-2013, 04:07 PM #32
to be "locked in hell" might be a bit harsh, but i share your sentiments when it comes to people who suck but don't think they do even when they are playing with/against people who are way better.
i used to be a noob, then i learned a lesson, and now i have been converted to a newbie
12-31-2013, 05:44 PM #33
01-01-2014, 04:00 PM #34
I have recently returned to badminton, the last time I played competitively was early 80's, I was a reasonable young club player with lots of formal training. A couple of months into my return at a club something happened that shocked me.
There is one guy who when it is his pick always chooses partner and opposition to ensure an easy win, on this occasion I was placed with a total beginner while he was with one of the ladies team, all the way through they were giggling and chatting but we were giving them a good run and the scores were quite close, he serves high to my partner and she missed it completely this was followed by a vocal "YESSSSSS!!!" from him. It seemed totally unneccasary very bad manners and stays with me each time I play him.
I have recently been watching BWF matches on Y.T. (didn't have these a while ago!) and again feel a little uncomfortable to hear a pairing shout loudly in celebration when a server nets it, perhaps I had a sheltered upbringing.
By the way he is the only one at the club that has done this.
I am by the way enjoying my return, just can't run like I used to!