eBay Auction Watch & Shopping Enquiries

**bluejeff** · 12-05-2004, 06:19 PM

I want to exclusively point out a fake seller on eBay (based in USA).

This seller's name is tjmax369

, he is currently selling Fake Yonex Shuttles and Fake Yonex Strings on eBay.

Fake Yonex shuttles: AS-60, which never exist in Yonex history. You can easily buy these fake AS-60 in China with $6 USD a tube.

Fake Yonex Strings: He sells weird colors of strings and some of them are with wrong "CH" logo on the packs. Solid-Blue color of BG85 never exists in Yonex history.

Fake Yonex Grips: Yonex doesn't put that R with circle on the grips tape after "Yonex". So, the product logo is wrong, hence the item is fake.

I emailed this seller, and he insisted that he is selling real Yonex items sourced from Asia. Well, I tell you what, he is either tricked or just didn't want to admit it.

**kpl818** · 12-05-2004, 07:21 PM

andykousa99 = come4bestprice

He changed his e-bay id, but his auction format is the same and feedback rating also. He is mentioned in the fake stuff sellers list of bluejeff.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...come4bestprice

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...706218&frm=284

Link isn't fully readible here (in browser it is), but one reads ..viewfeedback&userid=andykousa99.. and the other reads ..viewfeedback&userid=come4bestprice..

**chickenpoodle** · 12-06-2004, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by kpl818

I'm glad you also think that the racquet is a real one.

I’ll try this stringing pattern for a while and see how it plays, maybe it does feel good.

i personally use that stringing pattern on my racquets, and i find it feels fine.
the change in string pattern came with new type of strings, so i can't objectively say if the extra power comes from the strings or the pattern (i'm inclined to say the strings), but i have noticed that the off-center shots feel horrible, and you KNOW they're off-center when they are...
plus, theres the additional stress on that odd cross, and its been said its prone to snapping if you screw up a shot and it lands there real hard.

and yes, the mp88 looks real to me. it fact, it looks nearly identical to one i saw at school. the only difference was that the sunrise sticker was put on crooked, relative to yours.

**kpl818** · 12-06-2004, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by chickenpoodle

i personally use that stringing pattern on my racquets, and i find it feels fine.
the change in string pattern came with new type of strings, so i can't objectively say if the extra power comes from the strings or the pattern (i'm inclined to say the strings), but i have noticed that the off-center shots feel horrible, and you KNOW they're off-center when they are...
plus, theres the additional stress on that odd cross, and its been said its prone to snapping if you screw up a shot and it lands there real hard.

and yes, the mp88 looks real to me. it fact, it looks nearly identical to one i saw at school. the only difference was that the sunrise sticker was put on crooked, relative to yours.

Thanx chickenpoodle for the feedback (thank you also Mr. Anderson!)! It kind of helps me determine whether or not the seller's intensions were sincere. Knowing there is actually someone out there playing with the same kind of stringing.

And the supposedly more power... it's impossible for me to know, can't compare it with another racquet, too much different properties.

Of course the most important thing is that it is a genuine mp88

.

**LazyBuddy** · 12-06-2004, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by bluejeff

I want to exclusively point out a fake seller on eBay (based in USA).

This seller's name is tjmax369

, he is currently selling Fake Yonex Shuttles and Fake Yonex Strings on eBay.

Fake Yonex shuttles: AS-60, which never exist in Yonex history. You can easily buy these fake AS-60 in China with $6 USD a tube.

Fake Yonex Strings: He sells weird colors of strings and some of them are with wrong "CH" logo on the packs. Solid-Blue color of BG85 never exists in Yonex history.

Fake Yonex Grips: Yonex doesn't put that R with circle on the grips tape after "Yonex". So, the product logo is wrong, hence the item is fake.

I emailed this seller, and he insisted that he is selling real Yonex items sourced from Asia. Well, I tell you what, he is either tricked or just didn't want to admit it.

I am afraid the rackets that he sold were fakes, too. The pics are not very clear, but seems the wrap on the handle are very loose.

**chickenpoodle** · 12-07-2004, 03:40 AM

user id - "winson.lee"

fake mp99
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...sPageName=WDVW

his other auctions with a mp100 and at800-o has piss-poor photos, so its hard to tell, although the grip wrapping does look loose.

its a shame if he really is selling them for a friend, because his shoddy products is tainting his buddy's name.

**giantdino** · 12-07-2004, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by giantdino

Please help to check if these two are real?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

thanks

Anyboday can help?

**thebestofall** · 12-09-2004, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by giantdino

Anyboday can help?

THe items are real.

**doris160260** · 12-09-2004, 05:47 PM

i recently won an auction. I had no diea baout all of these fakes. (Call me stupid I didnt hear ne thing about this.) Any ways the seller tells me he got them from a friend who was closing his sports store in Hong Kong. He tells me tehy should be real but he is uncertain. He is willing to give me a refund if I am unsatisfied but I couldnt tell if they are real when I get them anyways. I cood play wiht them but really if it is high quality I may not know the difference. He did have a picture of teh serial number. Any ideas on teh authenticity of this one? Also why do different armotec racekts have different covers. Ive seen pics of about three different kinds.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

**giantdino** · 12-10-2004, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by thebestofall

THe items are real.

Thanks for the information.

**LazyBuddy** · 12-10-2004, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by doris160260

i recently won an auction. I had no diea baout all of these fakes. (Call me stupid I didnt hear ne thing about this.) Any ways the seller tells me he got them from a friend who was closing his sports store in Hong Kong. He tells me tehy should be real but he is uncertain. He is willing to give me a refund if I am unsatisfied but I couldnt tell if they are real when I get them anyways. I cood play wiht them but really if it is high quality I may not know the difference. He did have a picture of teh serial number. Any ideas on teh authenticity of this one? Also why do different armotec racekts have different covers. Ive seen pics of about three different kinds.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

Somehow, I think the 1st pic look like a picture from catalog, and the serial # pic look a bit "twisted". The # appears to be in the range, but I can't tell for sure at this moment.

At least, the seller agrees to pay for refund, in case of any fraud. Why don't you provide us some pic once u received the racket? Make sure the pics show detail such as butt cap, cone (with serial), shaft (letter), shaft (serial), and head frame.

Regarding to the cover, different dealer can order different cover/bag, this is especially true for different regions. Personally, I think use the cover to determine whether a racket is fake is very difficult.

**impy123** · 12-11-2004, 09:13 AM

Hi could some1 check this out if its real or fake? its Yonex Armortec 800 Off.

thnxs

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...146036735&rd=1

**klc28** · 12-11-2004, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by impy123

Hi could some1 check this out if its real or fake? its Yonex Armortec 800 Off.

thnxs

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...146036735&rd=1

Check out Bluejeff's excel sheet.
The seller is very well known for dealing in fakes.

But even if he wasn't, ask yourself this, is it really possible that a genuine racket sold in the UK for GBP150 RRP could be less than GBP25 in China?
Check out the chinese badminton racket vendor websites for an indication.

China can be pretty cheap for some things. Genuine Yonex rackets is not one of them.

**other** · 12-11-2004, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by impy123

Hi could some1 check this out if its real or fake? its Yonex Armortec 800 Off.

thnxs

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...146036735&rd=1

i mean china is famous for being a communist country (sometimes taken to mean that it has different money by some people-granted they were like secondary school people), and rather cheap....but come on...that little for a "made in japan" "genuine yonex" top of the range AT800? if its made in china, then yup, maybe..but made in japan

**impy123** · 12-11-2004, 06:40 PM

cheers, suppose ur rite! its singapore version tho stated..or does it matter wot country version, as clones could be duplicated; printed anything they wish..?

**din** · 12-12-2004, 06:55 PM

Found this from ebay Malaysia:

http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=7120904511#photo

Does AT700 2U really exist? This seller doesn't bother to answer my query.