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**Neosakai** · 03-24-2005, 07:44 PM

Don't think this one is mentioned but... Here I go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

What do you think about him lol.

Oh and this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

MP99 with gForce ti.... awesome

***kwun*** · 03-24-2005, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Neosakai

Don't think this one is mentioned but... Here I go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

What do you think about him lol.

this is a good one, from the buyers' question section:

Q: What sort of quantity would I need to buy, in order to get this price??
A: Hello, I am not selling any rackets. What I am selling is information on where you can get cheap Yonex rackets produced from factory in China.Thanks

**DinkAlot** · 03-24-2005, 07:57 PM

LMAO! That guy can't be serious.

**Neosakai** · 03-24-2005, 07:59 PM

Damn I should have read it, I thought he was actually gonna ship a fake one if I pay him a few bucks.

**FEND.** · 03-24-2005, 11:43 PM

mmm. If these are what I think they are... fakes have just reached australian shores...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ayphotohosting

**cheung31** · 03-25-2005, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by FEND.

mmm. If these are what I think they are... fakes have just reached australian shores...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ayphotohosting

holy crap? how can you tell!? i swear if i were to have bid, i would of thought i was bidding on an authentic! can you please explain what is wrong according to the pics.

**FEND.** · 03-25-2005, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by cheung31

holy crap? how can you tell!? i swear if i were to have bid, i would of thought i was bidding on an authentic! can you please explain what is wrong according to the pics.

Lol. Well firstly, no one is that dumb to sell an authentic one at such a low bidding price, 2ndly from the patterns with fake sellers, they usually sell 3 - 4 racquets like that....

oh yea, the muscle power bag is crap, the armortec one also... the arse of the bag is big....

**Neosakai** · 03-25-2005, 12:13 AM

The easiest to tell is the Muscle Power racquet cover, it was so fake -_-

Muscle power covers do NOT have white writings.
ANd if he is selling one fake racquet, the rest of them may just be fake.

That's how I look at this.

**chickenpoodle** · 03-25-2005, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Neosakai

The easiest to tell is the Muscle Power racquet cover, it was so fake -_-

Muscle power covers do NOT have white writings.
ANd if he is selling one fake racquet, the rest of them may just be fake.

That's how I look at this.

some people use real racquets and fake bags.
therefore, if they decide to sell the racquet online, it could very well be a real racquet with a fake thermobag.

besides, the photo-flash from the camera might of flooded the scene, to produce the silver-accents on the bag to appear as white.

its interesting to note how there are that version of the mp99 fake without the special grommets at the T-joint.

**Neosakai** · 03-25-2005, 05:11 PM

Oh... Why do they even use fake covers if selling real racquets anyways?... Just wondering.

Btw, the word "Yonex" and the YY logo is suppose to be in gold... His camera can't be stupid enough to make it whit by itself...

**chickenpoodle** · 03-25-2005, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by S4MadMan

LMAO! Neo, you are too funny.

Yes, luckily I have those "thingies" near the T-Joints.

he speaks of the mp-strip, around the bottom corners of the frame, and not the special grommets on the T-joint.
the mp-strip was never on the mp100, i beleive. it was present on a few other ones, such as 77, 88, 99 etc.
those special grommets on the T-joint can be on any of the newer racquets. all the MPs, ATs, NS series, and even other brand racquets if someone decides to take out the special grommets and implant them on their own frame.
i did that to a couple of my carlton's.

Originally Posted by Neosakai

Oh... Why do they even use fake covers if selling real racquets anyways?... Just wondering.

Btw, the word "Yonex" and the YY logo is suppose to be in gold... His camera can't be stupid enough to make it whit by itself...

its not the camera's fault, and its the user's fault. the person who took the camera is probably just not real good with a camera.

the material is reflective (not like a mirror), but its reflective to the extent that its somewhat shiny when it is exposed to light.

the flash of a camera is really intense, especially at certain distances.

the flooding from this intense light can even be enough to reflect off the oils on the skin or people and create the impression the person is pale, as in totally white.

and i was mentioning the point that they might not have had the real bag available to include?
its not so much of an issue with new racquets, but for used one, its a real possibility.
perhaps he bought the mp99 new, then the oem bag got ripped, and he acquired a fake musclepower bag, from a friend, maybe a fake racquet he bought, for a number of reasons.
then if he were to sell it, of course he would want to include the bag.

**Neosakai** · 03-25-2005, 07:31 PM

Is that why some people choose MP99 over MP100?

Moreover,

The colors were all wrong on the cover. The Muscle Power in big letters are not suppose to be gold while the Yonex and small muscle power word is suppose to be in gold....

That can't be the camera's/user's fault can it?

**DinkAlot** · 03-25-2005, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Neosakai

The colors were all wrong on the cover. The Muscle Power in big letters are not suppose to be gold while the Yonex and small muscle power word is suppose to be in gold....

That can't be the camera's/user's fault can it?

I hope it's not the camera's fault. If so then buy a different camera.

**Neosakai** · 03-25-2005, 08:13 PM

lol you have the best camera ....

Well comparing your racquet cover and this....

So obviously this one is a fake

But chickenpoodle said some people put real racquets into a fake cover and sell it...
Why lol?

I saw a really fake racquet cover in school the other day, I automatically assumed that was fake... But now reading your post, I might reconsider...

**chickenpoodle** · 03-25-2005, 08:26 PM

well, my comments weren't directed at any one particular example.

this case, the one with the reversed colors is obviously wrong, but as a general rule, i would pay attention to the racquet, and not the bag, in making decisions regarding a fake.
the fake bag is just one extra aspect, but is totally non-relevent to the racquet, unless, of course, you place an emphasis on wanting a real bag.

to me, a bag is a bag. as long as it can hold stuff, its good enough

the photo with the mp100 that was just posted, is an example of a decent photograph.

if i wanted to, i can easily take the same photo, with the carpet in focus, the racquet and bag out of focus, and have the words on the bag all washed out, and have the details on the racquet blurred and washed out.

**leehsim** · 03-25-2005, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by chickenpoodle

well, my comments weren't directed at any one particular example.

this case, the one with the reversed colors is obviously wrong, but as a general rule, i would pay attention to the racquet, and not the bag, in making decisions regarding a fake.
the fake bag is just one extra aspect, but is totally non-relevent to the racquet, unless, of course, you place an emphasis on wanting a real bag.

to me, a bag is a bag. as long as it can hold stuff, its good enough

the photo with the mp100 that was just posted, is an example of a decent photograph.

if i wanted to, i can easily take the same photo, with the carpet in focus, the racquet and bag out of focus, and have the words on the bag all washed out, and have the details on the racquet blurred and washed out.

Good thinking from chickenpoodle
Since we can't say the racket is fake just because its bag is fake. We also can't say the racket is real just becasue the serial no and date is legitimate.
Judging whether a racket is fake or real from picture posted at eBay is also a very risky business.
Nowadays, the faker rackets manufacturers are getting very clever and I think to judge authentic racket, we should consider all factors together:
1) Legitimate serial no and date code;
2) Thorough examination physically (meaning to buy from shop) on all aspect of a racket and compare with its specification.
3) Authentic bag?
4) Reliable eBay sellers?