eBay Auction Watch & Shopping Enquiries

**winstonchan** · 06-15-2005, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by newplayer

Hi,

I just saw 2 extremly cheap yonex rackets on ebay:

(1) Nanospeed 7000 -- sold for AUD$25

(2) Brand new ArmorTec 700 -- I bought for USD$35 + USD$41 of mailing cost.

As an after thought, I'm a bit suprised that people would actually sell these really
expensive rackets for such low prices. What do you guys think? Are they very likely
to be fakes?

B.T.W. the ArmorTec racket was sold by someone from China, which might explain
the low low price ...

newplayer

A really low price Yonex racket is almost certain that it's fake. Everyone who plays badminton and know something about rackets (and even those who don't play badminton and don't know much about rackets) will tell you that genuine Yonex equipment are expensive. You could see differences in price amongst different countries, for example, you may find genuine Yonex cheapest in Thailand, then reasonably inexpensive in Hong Kong, then very expensive in Europe, etc.., but those prices you saw in eBay are completely OFF the "cheap scale" of Yonex. Yonex in China are definitely NOT cheap. You can find some models more expensive than the same in Hong Kong.

The only chance I can think of for a person to sell a brand new genuine Yonex racket dirt cheap and still make a profit is he had the racket given to him for free as a gift or sample (or he stole it

). He could sell that to you for 5 dollar and still make a profit.

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by winstonchan

A really low price Yonex racket is almost certain that it's fake. Everyone who plays badminton and know something about rackets (and even those who don't play badminton and don't know much about rackets) will tell you that genuine Yonex equipment are expensive. You could see differences in price amongst different countries, for example, you may find genuine Yonex cheapest in Thailand, then reasonably inexpensive in Hong Kong, then very expensive in Europe, etc.., but those prices you saw in eBay are completely OFF the "cheap scale" of Yonex. Yonex in China are definitely NOT cheap. You can find some models more expensive than the same in Hong Kong.

The only chance I can think of for a person to sell a brand new genuine Yonex racket dirt cheap and still make a profit is he had the racket given to him for free as a gift or sample (or he stole it

). He could sell that to you for 5 dollar and still make a profit.

Damn it ... I knew it was too good to be true, well, the only thing I can do now is
waiting and hoping for the best. Cannot believe I let my greed get the better of me.

newplayer

**winstonchan** · 06-15-2005, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by newplayer

Damn it ... I knew it was too good to be true, well, the only thing I can do now is
waiting and hoping for the best. Cannot believe I let my greed get the better of me.

newplayer

Let us know if your racket is real or fake after you received it. I think we are interested to know. If the racket is genuine, that price you paid for AT700 was not bad at all....

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by winstonchan

Let us know if your racket is real or fake after you received it. I think we are interested to know. If the racket is genuine, that price you paid for AT700 was not bad at all....

Sure I will, but I think we already know what the outcome will be.

By the way, is there anyway I can verify the authenticity of the racket in case I
cannot do so visually? (Other than trying to break it)

Thanks a lot.

newplayer

**winstonchan** · 06-15-2005, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by newplayer

Sure I will, but I think we already know what the outcome will be.

By the way, is there anyway I can verify the authenticity of the racket in case I
cannot do so visually? (Other than trying to break it)

Thanks a lot.

newplayer

It's quite hard to verify one as fakies are made so close to the genuine one. I must admit I am not good at telling the difference either. However you can try take pictures of the end cap, the serial number on the shaft cone and on the shaft (we can sometime tell from the serial number, also see if the number is laser etched or just printed on), take picture of the YY logo on the shaft cone, what is the spec (?U/G?) etc... and post them on the thread. I'm sure you will find BC members with expertise knowledge to give you a representative answer.

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 04:29 AM

Hi all,

I just bought a Yonex AromorTec 700 (3U/G2) from a seller called tekeong on ebay.
The bid was USD$33 and the postage and handling was USD$43.10. I had some doubts
about the authenticity of the racket after I paid, and I sent him an email to enquire about
it but haven't heard anything back. The pictures of this racket can be found at
another thread.

I'm just wondering if any of you have bought anything from this seller, and what the outcome was.

Thanks a lot.

newplayer

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by winstonchan

take picture of the YY logo on the shaft cone, what is the spec (?U/G?) etc... and post them on the thread. I'm sure you will find BC members with expertise knowledge to give you a representative answer.

Ah, the spec of the racket is what worries me the most. The seller claims the racket to
be a 3U/G2. Now, I've done as much research about this racket as I can and I just cannot
possibly find one of G2. The pictures are here:

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks a lot.

newplayer

**winstonchan** · 06-15-2005, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by newplayer

Ah, the spec of the racket is what worries me the most. The seller claims the racket to
be a 3U/G2. Now, I've done as much research about this racket as I can and I just cannot
possibly find one of G2. The pictures are here:

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks a lot.

newplayer

OK, from the little information on the picture, I could just spot that the bottom of the frame has grommets that different from the authentic AT700 (anyone please correct me if I'm wrong). Your picture shows normal grommets, where as to my memory AT700 have 4 stud grommets (dont know the proper name but you may know what i mean) at the bottom.

Secondly, Armortec rackets don't come in G2. See this link:
http://www.yonex.co.jp/intl/badminto.../armortec.html

**YawneXpensive** · 06-15-2005, 04:54 AM

G2 looks fishy to me too.. thats one thick handle, but.. from looking at the picture, it DOES look like a G2.. and i dont see any flaws atm.. the paint job seems shiney and right.. i dont know, maybe you have a very special racket.. first time ive seen a bag with purple too..

edit: ^ listen to the guy on top =)

**ErrBerr** · 06-15-2005, 05:14 AM

Umm.. looking at that second pic.. it seems a bit weird. My AT700 is authentic (hopefully) and i can see that behind the number '700', there are some horizontal silver stripes. Looking at the pic, unless its bad quality, i can't see to see them. Correct me if i'm wrong or if my racquet is just fake..

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by YawneXpensive

G2 looks fishy to me too.. thats one thick handle, but.. from looking at the picture, it DOES look like a G2.. and i dont see any flaws atm.. the paint job seems shiney and right.. i dont know, maybe you have a very special racket.. first time ive seen a bag with purple too..

edit: ^ listen to the guy on top =)

Oh ... I hope the G2 is just a mistake, but yes, I agree with most people here
that this is a fake racket. However, I don't think it would justified for me to
start asking for my money back until I've received the racket and verified
its authenticity.

Thanks a lot for all the help.

newplayer

**Neosakai** · 06-15-2005, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by newplayer

Sure I will, but I think we already know what the outcome will be.

By the way, is there anyway I can verify the authenticity of the racket in case I
cannot do so visually? (Other than trying to break it)

Thanks a lot.

newplayer

You can post your serial number in the equiptment section for someone to confirm it

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Neosakai

You can post your serial number in the equiptment section for someone to confirm it

Ah!! That's what I've been looking for, thanks a lot!!

newplayer

**Will Ko** · 06-15-2005, 10:26 AM

hi ,yonex ti-10 ,can any of you's judging from the pic ,think it's real or a fake? the serial on cone looks fine with me

cheers,will

**bluejeff** · 06-15-2005, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Will Ko

hi ,yonex ti-10 ,can any of you's judging from the pic ,think it's real or a fake? the serial on cone looks fine with me

cheers,will

You can't say a racket is genuine by looking at only one picture.

**bluejeff** · 06-15-2005, 06:35 PM

http://www.badmintonrepublic.com/fake/index.html

The fakes-seller list is getting long, and it's hard to update here.
So, please visit above page for the list of counterfeit sellers.
(Click on "eBay Watch" to view the list)

**newplayer** · 06-15-2005, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by newplayer

Oh ... I hope the G2 is just a mistake, but yes, I agree with most people here
that this is a fake racket. However, I don't think it would justified for me to
start asking for my money back until I've received the racket and verified
its authenticity.

newplayer

Hi,

For all of those who gave me advice -- thank you!! I've just communicated with
the seller who told me that Yonex racket is an "OEM" racket which was developed
in Japan and made in Taiwan. We have settled down on a 93% of the refund. I'm
still waiting for the money.

newplayer