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06-21-2005, 09:47 AM #1327Originally Posted by e3_silversurfer
I'm sorry that I doubted you, but I just bought and returned a fake Yonex racket
on ebay -- my first ever ebay transaction, so I'm a little bit paranoid about doing
something similar again.
Would you mind telling us how much you paid for these rackets? We'd understand
if you prefer not to tell.
Thanks a lot.
06-21-2005, 10:35 AM #1328Originally Posted by newplayer
Well if the response is good, I might be going for a large scale import from this guy in thailand but if the response is bad, I think I might have to close down. Well sorry for the way I put myself across in this forum but I have just started selling and would like to give a good impression on ebay. would appreciate if you guys excuse me ^_^.
Last edited by e3_silversurfer; 06-21-2005 at 10:40 AM.
06-21-2005, 02:11 PM #1329Originally Posted by Jan_BE
06-21-2005, 03:08 PM #1330Originally Posted by e3_silversurfer
I just tried to issue a general warning to the general public, regarding to the serial # issue. The problem is, the fakes are flowing around the market like crazy these days. Fake sellers use all kinda strategy to trick customers, and to rob our $$$. I have absolute no intention to attack any particular person. All I want to do, is let everyone thinks twice, before draw an easy conclusion, and end up regret later on.
I know all such warning might drive a lot of potential buyers away, therefore, hurt the actual real sellers. However, we are all the victims for the fake stuff, in many different ways. Think about this case if u r the buyer, will u be happy to see spending hundreds of $$$, with high expectation and receive some crap instead?
I hope ur statements are true, and more than glad to see another reputable seller is on his/her way. However, without the hard fact proof, I still can't give my word to others, say, "let's buy it" or "let's not buy it".
I give u my apology, as u think somehow I ruin ur business (if it is the real one as u described). However, I will NOT give up my ground for this matter as for now, until there's hard fact proof.
Last edited by LazyBuddy; 06-21-2005 at 03:16 PM.
06-21-2005, 03:11 PM #1331Originally Posted by LazyBuddy
2. I never give direction to buyers, as "buy" or "not buy". The hard fact is, "if u want to save $$$, u r facing certain risk".
06-21-2005, 03:15 PM #1332Originally Posted by newplayer
2. It's impossible to argue whether the seller give u the actual item as described or not. Say, I claim I sell u AAA, but instead, i give u a BBB instead. Even if u want to sue me, how u prove u 1. did not recieve AAA 2. did not exchange BBB by urself and try to screw me up?
3. Risk, risk, and more risk.
06-21-2005, 03:20 PM #1333Originally Posted by e3_silversurfer
2. So, my statement of "he might give u another one" is VALID. I did metion "another one", but i also metioned "REAL or fake". I never say, a different one must be a fake. However, since it's a different serial#, we need to verify it again, once we see it.
3. Not valid reason. So, if ppl can't find a decent job, it's ok to kill others, rob the bank, selling drugs??? My god...
06-21-2005, 05:37 PM #1334
Well I already said excuse me in the previous messages. Well then how can genuine sellers prove that their products are authentic without going through too much trouble (esp if the verification requires money). And another issue I would like to put up is how can genuine product sellers avoid the trick of other people who bought the authentic racket, claim that it is fake and return a fake racket for the authentic racket? I have had this case once and I cannot do anything about it. advise anyone?
06-21-2005, 09:09 PM #1335Originally Posted by e3_silversurfer
One way that genuine sellers to avoid being scammed by others who claim their real racquet is fake is to keep track of serial numbers when they send them out.
06-21-2005, 10:27 PM #1336Originally Posted by e3_silversurfer
This is exactly why it's hard to start a business. Hope u won't get discouraged easily on such cases.
06-22-2005, 10:28 AM #1337
does anyone know anything more about this seller? if they really are a fake seller? auctions at the mo are-
Originally Posted by wing-hong
06-22-2005, 11:13 AM #1338Originally Posted by -jono-
The other 2 should have good chances to be fakes, as they all from the same seller.
06-22-2005, 12:27 PM #1339
All 4 items have the same day & month but 2 of them have 2004 & 2 have 2005. But all 4 of the serials start with 569*??(how convenient !!!)
Most probably they are all fakes....
Originally Posted by LazyBuddy
06-24-2005, 10:15 PM #1340
Ive recieved a reply from a buyer of a racket from tigerxp83
"there are loads of discrepancies you
could readily identify: the yonex logo is very unequal; the tight plastic
wrapper that yonex is famous for is not there; the contour of the frame if
uneven; the paint job sucks; the grommets are not individually made; the
notch at the top of the racket head is not not present and the control
support cap is cylindrical, not flat as the genuine one. futhermore, at
first glance, the serial number looks very original, but if you examine it
closely, the "4", the "0" and the "P" would give it away instantly. if you
flex the racket, its no where as stiff as the real one. the only thing that
really impressed was the string (it was the only original thing you can
And the main thing that the serial numbers are wrong. So i think we can conclude tigerxp83 is a fake ebay seller. I wish I had known that before.
06-24-2005, 10:26 PM #1341Originally Posted by -jono-
06-25-2005, 09:27 AM #1342Originally Posted by Neosakai
06-25-2005, 12:23 PM #1343Originally Posted by LazyBuddy
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