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    Korea Open should be upgraded to SSP immediately.

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    BWF: The five top-tier World Superseries Premier tournaments China (Guangzhou), Denmark, England, Malaysia and Indonesia promise to be more lucrative, each with minimum prize money of US$500,000 (2014; 2015); US$550,000 (2016); and US$600,000 (2017).

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    Weird, if you look at the official BWF OSIM site, the price money at All England 2014 is set at 500 000 USD.

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    with no prize money at all where should the Olympics degraded to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingu View Post
    Weird, if you look at the official BWF OSIM site, the price money at All England 2014 is set at 500 000 USD.
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    While SS or SSP is typically a matter of prize money, AE is a conditionality given its prestige as the oldest badminton tourney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markuswair View Post
    While SS or SSP is typically a matter of prize money, AE is a conditionality given its prestige as the oldest badminton tourney.
    agreed. you just cant award them to the highest bidder, can you?
    otherwise we might have the SSF awarded to some places in the middle east thinking the badminton is just another show jumping event!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markuswair View Post
    While SS or SSP is typically a matter of prize money, AE is a conditionality given its prestige as the oldest badminton tourney.
    The oldest badminton tourney doesn't mean SSP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
    agreed. you just cant award them to the highest bidder, can you?
    otherwise we might have the SSF awarded to some places in the middle east thinking the badminton is just another show jumping event!
    for those didn't quite get it, badminton is place in England that holds the world famous horse trials yearly.

    http://www.badminton-horse.co.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxytdn View Post
    The oldest badminton tourney doesn't mean SSP.
    Actually, it does. And it is the most prestigious of them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markuswair View Post
    While SS or SSP is typically a matter of prize money, AE is a conditionality given its prestige as the oldest badminton tourney.
    I don't quite agree with this. If so, then the All England should have had SSP status from the inception of the SS tour (which is hasn't been). Unless there is something written in the conditions that we don't know about.

    I agree world championships and Olympics are considered differently but age of tournament is a weak argument. For it's prestige, yes, I agree All England is a more desirable tournament but SSP status and allowing it to offer less prize money...?

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    http://bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=464370&dl=1

    Definition 2.3 gives the definition of SSP.

    But that should be a minimum criteria. Let's say 7 tournaments offer more than $500,000 , then other factors come into consideration in selecting the 5 SSP out of that 7.

    In those definitions, All England is not mentioned as an exception.

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    In 2014,

    INA SSP 750K
    AUS SS 750K
    CHN SSP 700K
    DEN SSP 600K
    KOR SS 600K
    MAS SSP 500K

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    I don't have idea why certain people are against to one of the prestigious tournament .

    England is the birth place of this wonderful sport. It has a history for more than 100 years of badminton cycle which no other tournament has. Nothing unusual in giving importance to this wonderful tournament though it offers less money than any other 'child' SSP tournaments. This is the mother of all the SSP tournaments which someone can't get rid off(degraded) just like that . Period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    I don't quite agree with this. If so, then the All England should have had SSP status from the inception of the SS tour (which is hasn't been). Unless there is something written in the conditions that we don't know about.

    I agree world championships and Olympics are considered differently but age of tournament is a weak argument. For it's prestige, yes, I agree All England is a more desirable tournament but SSP status and allowing it to offer less prize money...?
    However, SS was introduced (2006, started 2007) before SSP (2011) was and All England became a SSP straight away when it was introduced.

    It is indeed curious that AE is still considered SSP when it doesn't even meet the criteria anymore.

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    I think we should be calling for more prize money for the tournament. Very few people in England apart from badminton fans know what the All England is. I am sure they could create a advertising campaign to generate more interest and raise public awareness which attract tv coverage and possibly more noney from tv rights which would go towards prize money.

    I wish BWF and badminton england would be a bit more proactive about this as it seems a shame interest in the tournament is falling and it is risking losing its prestigous status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    http://bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=464370&dl=1

    Definition 2.3 gives the definition of SSP.

    But that should be a minimum criteria. Let's say 7 tournaments offer more than $500,000 , then other factors come into consideration in selecting the 5 SSP out of that 7.

    In those definitions, All England is not mentioned as an exception.
    Can't agree more. All England is definitely not an exception given it's prize money is $500,000 in 2014.
    Check this out http://www.allenglandbadminton.com/w...premier-event/

    Thus, either the All England website or the prospectus must be erroneous. I guess the website is the correct one. BWF, I believe, is not that ignorant to transgress its own rule.

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