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01-18-2014, 05:22 PM #18
I see ladies performing this service more often than the guys. Other notable female players with a tremendous high service are Eriko Hirose and Ratchanok's team mate Busanan Ongbumrungpan. Indeed it can be quite tricky how to response on such a service.
01-18-2014, 07:57 PM #19
I think there is a shift somewhere. either footwork (better faster footwork) or because of the new scoring system (less focus on stamina and focus more on speed and burst of power. and less focus on tiring your opponent).
if none of top class players (in these recent years) use it, then there must be a fatal flaw in it.
such as sautom88 said, one of them might be because low serve limits the selection of the shots.
smash, drop, clear. all of these can be disguised one and another since the movement is almost the same (drop disguised as a smash, or smash as a clear)
and plus returning each of them requires different preparation such as:
smash: in the returning position / middle
drop: move to the front
clear: move to the back
net shot / lift (it can be disguised, but look at the point below)
netshot: move to the front
lift: move to the back
less variation on where to move (plus less chance the opponent can kill with smash)
and the main point is that opponent cannot do an attacking shot at all. it will gives the server advantage which they can attack in case their opponent lift
her serve preparation looks very elegant (I think new players also copy it)
I think it is more because of female posture
on average, women (esp asian) are not as tall as men. meaning their legs are not as long as men and cannot move as far as (and as long as) men. it will be harder for them to move back really fast and receive the high serve
plus their power might be lacking (resulting in less power in smash).
Last edited by Avenger; 01-18-2014 at 08:01 PM.
01-18-2014, 08:52 PM #20
yeah..same principle also at double..when u lift high enough at the base line it will be difficult to smash when shuttle come down very straight..have to jump smash to reach at point when shuttle are not very straight...but for women double who are not jump smash they will control the angle of smash even shuttle come down straight
01-18-2014, 09:31 PM #21
@Avenger : You must have missed descriptions on the properties of a good high serve discussed here. And I'm not sure why you keep bringing up movement speed as a factor in receiving such serves.
It's true that Peter (and other male players) seldom uses such a high serve these days, I'm still wondering why. Once again, unless we disagree on the premise that such serves (esp. when serve deep, to the point receiver's feet are behind 2nd back line) can't be easily hit down.
01-19-2014, 01:12 AM #22
why I always said speed? because if they can get in the place on time, they can do whatever they want with it. even without being able to hit perfectly because they can't hit the head of the shuttle.
LCW or LD might be gladly smashing the shuttle when other players used a high serve, and then move to the front like wind if needed.
not sure if I answer your question or not.
my main point is that: high serve is good if your opponent is only around average players. pros are able to take it easily and can do whatever shot they want with it. if this answer is not satisfactory, then maybe another member can clear it up as I already tell why high serve does not work against better players
01-19-2014, 05:42 AM #23
01-19-2014, 08:24 AM #24
I think on the 80s, there are much less pressure.. maybe because the old rule is still there (the server will not lose point if they lose the rally, only changing the server)
right now, 1 mistake might costs the player the tide of the game. plus, pros can reach it easily without too much effort and being able to move to the front really fast if needed.
**I am thinking if the weight of the racket (being 100+ gr) might also contribute to the high serve in 80s and 90s?
01-19-2014, 09:15 AM #25
01-20-2014, 12:04 AM #26
01-20-2014, 04:39 AM #27
generally speaking, for most players (i.e. players that are not on international level) it is better to do high serves in singles.
01-20-2014, 04:56 AM #28
02-24-2014, 10:47 AM #29