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    Default 2016 Rio Summer Olympics - Singles Maximum Lowered from 3 to 2.

    http://bwfbadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=81084

    I believe this would most affect China's WS, as now they can only send 2 instead of the usual 3.

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    Agree and fair point for another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CantSmashThis View Post
    http://bwfbadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=81084

    I believe this would most affect China's WS, as now they can only send 2 instead of the usual 3.
    An excerpt from the above link:

    The other major change for the Rio Olympics is that the host country’s quota will be one player in each of the two singles categories only. The host will not be given a quota in doubles.

    Here is the direct BWF link for the full Qualification System document for Rio 2016
    http://bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=529944&dl=1

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    The decision was made by the Badminton World Federationís (BWF) Council while establishing qualification requirements for the Rio Olympics. Badminton World Federation (BWF) sees this as a greater opportunity for players from more NOCs to compete at the highest level.

    what a load of rubbish!

    by definition there will be a maximum of TWO, most likely ONE or NONE, free places for the lower ranked players by robbing the players ranked within the top 4.

    And how's that to promote top class badminton to the wider world by letting a lower rank player get smashed in the first round?

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    羽联大棒打疼中囯国羽,林丹里约前景出变数诸强利好

      世界羽联突然在官方网站公布了一条里约奥运会名额调整的重磅消息,每个协会的单打参赛席位从3个变成了 两个。对国羽而言,这不啻于一次重大打击,男女单打的实力遭到削减,明显降低了对于这两枚金牌的把握,林丹 参加里约奥运会的前景出现变数,而收获利好的李宗伟也许将收回自己的退役决定。

      紧追世界乒联的步伐,世界羽联对于“打压”中国队也是不遗余力,继每个协会的双打名额在上届从3个缩减 到两个之后,在距离里约奥运会只有两年多的时刻,又突然将单打名额缩减到了两个。

      相比双打名额的调整,这一措施对中囯国羽的打击要更大。毕竟中国队只有两对高水平混双,男双甚至都没有 过硬的第二双打,女双的优势又比较明显。单打则不然,在伦敦奥运会报名截止日前,李雪芮在最后一刻挤掉王适 娴锁定了第三个女单席位,最终夺得了冠军。在2000年的悉尼奥运会上,吉新鹏作为第三男单出征,却一路走 到了最后。北京奥运会上,第三单打陈金扫雷成功,与林丹会师半决赛。在去年的世锦赛上,中囯国羽现在的第三 男单杜鹏宇半决赛对李宗伟进行了顽强阻击,对这位大马名将造成了很大的消耗。由于没有了第三个参赛席位,这 样的情况也将不会再出现。

      中国女单一直有保有三名高水平选手的传统,不过现在来看,李雪芮、王仪涵、王适娴这三大主力将有一人落 选里约奥运会,无疑将大大消弱国羽的集团优势,也降低了对于这枚金牌的把握。

      倘若里约男单仍有三个参赛席位,林丹参赛的希望无疑非常大。然而现在缩减一个名额之后,增加了很多不确 定性。谌龙已经基本锁定了一个参赛席位,只要不出大的意外将铁定出现在里约。林丹将跟众多后起之秀争夺另外 一个参赛席位。林丹现在已经有31岁,两年后将是33岁,谁也不能保证那个时候林丹仍保持着出色的状态,而 小将们则一直在进步。倘若林丹出现闪失,位置很有可能被杜鹏宇、王睁茗等人取代。

      李宗伟此前再次确认,他将在今年年底退役。但现在来看,李宗伟仍保持着巅峰状态,虽然已经有32岁,但 身体机能一点也不见下滑的趋势。而这几年羽坛盛产老将,盖德一直打到了37岁,34岁的李炫一 又复出了。

      羽联的这项举措打消了李宗伟的一些顾虑。几乎每届大赛,李宗伟都要面对中国选手的围剿,碰林丹之前他往 往要遇到多名中国选手,消耗非常大,以致决赛面对以逸待劳的林丹。现在则不同,他若确定参加里约奥运会,在 遇到林丹或谌龙之前,他最多只会遇到一名中国选手,甚至还有不小的可能是直接与两人之一决战。对于年纪越来 越大、愈发担忧国羽围剿的李宗伟而言,这不啻于一大利好。

      羽坛之前的景象是,林丹想坚持打到里约,李宗伟已经在准备退役,现在看来这种局面即将被打 破。

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    Death of badminton! Death of OG!

    If OG claim itself the top sports event, how could it deny a world number 3 from participating?

    and the clown coach TSB jumped out immediately to praise it as a fair move, how ridiculously hypocritical!!!

    rule is a rule, it's fine. but don't call this rule fair and don't call OG as the top event then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    and the clown coach TSB jumped out immediately to praise it as a fair move, how ridiculously hypocritical!!!
    He really said that? If yes, of course it is a fair move for him, as he won't likely had 3 singles in the top 4 came the 2016 OG. If only he can experienced LYB's luxury with 4 WS in top 4 and must leave some of them at home when 2012 OG came, wonder if he would still called it a fair move.

    rule is a rule, it's fine. but don't call this rule fair and don't call OG as the top event then...
    Nothing against the rule as a rule is a rule. At one side, it does gave more opportunity to more players to participate in OG. But feel so sorry for the better players that deserved that spot in the first place.
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    @jimbo thanks for the post above, but you do realise it is quite meaningless to many members- and also very frustrating! This is after all, an English-language forum. It might help if you could, with a little more effort, provide a translation/link or a brief synopsis on the contents, for the benefit of your fellow forumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    Death of badminton! Death of OG!

    If OG claim itself the top sports event, how could it deny a world number 3 from participating?

    and the clown coach TSB jumped out immediately to praise it as a fair move, how ridiculously hypocritical!!!

    rule is a rule, it's fine. but don't call this rule fair and don't call OG as the top event then...
    Mas will eventually end up with one player like many other countries. Eventhough Chn cannot send 3 singles players to OG, they will make sure their players occupy at least 5-7 spots in top 16. which means, it will be difficult for other countries to send 2players. And for Mas, if LCW is still playing, he will be the only one in top 16, if LCW retires before OG, Mas will also have only 1player. Remember HH, he was hanging at the 16th spot during the qualifying period and drop out of it at the 11th hr, twice... so, no different.. LYB will make sure to stop all other countries from sending the max players while he can enjoy the benefits alone, like always. the only difference is he wont have the chance to sweep all three colours in MS/WS

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    From 3 to 2 representatives, this BWF decision will deliver impact for CHN as they have many good players in MS and WS, they must select two BEST for Rio 2016.

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    It will be exciting to see how LD make the cut for Rio2016... CL is a sure bet, and another slot is up for grab among DPY, WZM and LD (provided that they make it to the top 8). The internal competition must be very tough...

    It was reported that LD will participate in 10 tournaments this year to reap up the points as much as possible... He is not qualified for the AE2014 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    It will be exciting to see how LD make the cut for Rio2016... CL is a sure bet, and another slot is up for grab among DPY, WZM and LD (provided that they make it to the top 8). The internal competition must be very tough...

    It was reported that LD will participate in 10 tournaments this year to reap up the points as much as possible... He is not qualified for the AE2014 though
    it's actually to top 16 will do.

    having said that if bwf really wishes to increase the number of players for the minor countries then they could make that to only 2 players if they are within top 8.

    Based on today's ranking as an example that will release 11 more single places (5MS & 6WS) rather than ONE for the current proposal.
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    Atleast for one time, BWF is thinking wisely and doing job to prevent 'malfunction'.

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    Those quotas are ridiculous, way to lower the overall level of the players, and the quality of the matches. How the BWF can make such bad decisions (remember the round-robin system) is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanY View Post
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    The decision was made by the Badminton World Federation’s (BWF) Council while establishing qualification requirements for the Rio Olympics. Badminton World Federation (BWF) sees this as a greater opportunity for players from more NOCs to compete at the highest level.

    what a load of rubbish!

    by definition there will be a maximum of TWO, most likely ONE or NONE, free places for the lower ranked players by robbing the players ranked within the top 4.

    And how's that to promote top class badminton to the wider world by letting a lower rank player get smashed in the first round?
    This is a very interesting point. On one hand, in the first round, if you have the third ranked player in the world top four playing, wouldn't that mean beating somebody in the first round quite comprehensively.

    Yet, if you have a badminton minnow playing another badminton minnow, that's two countries that

    A) profile their Olympians in countries within minority participation

    B) potentially show it on their national TV

    C) those Olympians go back to their countries and hopefully still get involved in promoting badminton

    D) in those countries, the Olympic dream for a badminton minority country and a couple of athletes will be better reached


    Note: the world championships is about the best in the world. Olympic philosophy is about participation across many countries for the top players across continents and countries. Hence, the different rules. Having top two players in each country still provides for the highest quality badminton in the semi and final rounds.
    Last edited by Cheung; 02-16-2014 at 08:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    This is a very interesting point. On one hand, in the first round, if you have the third ranked player in the world top four playing, wouldn't that mean beating somebody in the first round quite comprehensively.

    Yet, if you have a badminton minnow playing another badminton minnow, that's two countries that

    A) profile their Olympians in countries within minority participation

    B) potentially show it on their national TV

    C) those Olympians go back to their countries and hopefully still get involved in promoting badminton

    D) in those countries, the Olympic dream for a badminton minority country and a couple of athletes will be better reached


    Note: the world championships is about the best in the world. Olympic philosophy is about participation across many countries for the top players across continents and countries. Hence, the different rules. Having top two players in each country still provides for the highest quality badminton in the semi and final rounds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    This is a very interesting point. On one hand, in the first round, if you have the third ranked player in the world top four playing, wouldn't that mean beating somebody in the first round quite comprehensively.

    Yet, if you have a badminton minnow playing another badminton minnow, that's two countries that

    A) profile their Olympians in countries within minority participation

    B) potentially show it on their national TV

    C) those Olympians go back to their countries and hopefully still get involved in promoting badminton

    D) in those countries, the Olympic dream for a badminton minority country and a couple of athletes will be better reached


    Note: the world championships is about the best in the world. Olympic philosophy is about participation across many countries for the top players across continents and countries. Hence, the different rules. Having top two players in each country still provides for the highest quality badminton in the semi and final rounds.
    You're gonna have to excuse me while I get a chuckle out of this one. The last time I checked the Olympic motto is still Citius, Altius, Fortius. I haven't found anywhere where it said be good, but not too good.

    I can also certainly appreciate Pierre de Coubertin's goal of "harmious development of humankind." However, when he said the importance is participation, he was referring to the struggle as opposed to winning, specifically:

    "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well."

    de Coubertin certainly made no reference that a superior athlete should be disallowed in favour of a lesser one. As a matter of fact, it can be strongly argued that doing so would deprive the better athlete of the right of participation.

    Lastly but certainly not the least, if as claimed, the World Championships are about the best, why is there a similar quota in place?

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    But Cheung is right, Olympics was always meant to be a globally/nationally diverse competition. The five rings represents the five continents. If we are talking about Pierre de Coubertin, I believe his vision was that the Olympics should be strictly for amateurs and not professionals.

    But regarding this maximum quota rule changing from 3 to 2, I don't know, I feel like the rule was fine as it was, why change it? It's quite an impressive sight when a nation manages to make a clean-sweep of the medals. Not saying that's what I would hope for in any sport, but it's an impressive sight, three flags of the same during price ceremony.

    This would probably have happened in 2012
    if not for Wang Xin's sad injury.
    And in 2008 if not for Lu Lan's stage-fright.

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