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    Originally posted by cappy75
    Perhaps I can get someone to look at my playing form and point out my mistakes. Thanks!
    Hey Cappy75,

    I am reading this thread only after today's session at Collingwood, so I'm not too sure if this is the cause for your back pain.

    During one of the games against you, I noticed you did a smash that fooled my partner! It was a deep clear that caused you to lean back, in essence you were smashing while doing the limbo. You were hitting a straight forehand as suppose to leaning to hit around-the-head or cross-court. There were a few more shots like that but I did not take note of the frequency nor how far you were leaning back.

    If you don't have an opportunity for a spotter, remind me next Sunday and I will observe. Too bad, I don't have a digital camcorder.
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    Geez! You're the second guy to point that out to me. The first guy was a really good older player in Edmonton who told me not to do that. Yeah, it's a really bad habit of mine held over from time before I got proper guidance. Guess it lingered on... I think I only do that when I get tired and probably flat-footed the rest of the game though, when the birdie went alittle past but not far enough that I couldn't smash it. Yeah, definitely slacky footwork.

    BMS, it'll be great if you could spot for me next week. Thanks!

    Originally posted by Break-My-String
    Hey Cappy75,

    I am reading this thread only after today's session at Collingwood, so I'm not too sure if this is the cause for your back pain.

    During one of the games against you, I noticed you did a smash that fooled my partner! It was a deep clear that caused you to lean back, in essence you were smashing while doing the limbo. You were hitting a straight forehand as suppose to leaning to hit around-the-head or cross-court. There were a few more shots like that but I did not take note of the frequency nor how far you were leaning back.

    If you don't have an opportunity for a spotter, remind me next Sunday and I will observe. Too bad, I don't have a digital camcorder.
    Last edited by cappy75; 03-08-2004 at 06:05 AM.

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    Oh, definitely... my game has been alot more intense with apparent mobility over the last two years. Due to my weight-loss, I have been able to get at shots that I couldn't possible get before.

    Originally posted by Neil Nicholls
    When I was overweight (or more overweight than I currently am) I would regularly get an aching in the lower back. Since I lost weight, I very rarely get back ache.
    I do move faster now though.

    Could it be that since you've lost weight you are moving differently. Twisting or stretching to an extent that you never did before because of the weight ?

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    Originally posted by cappy75
    Geez! You're the second guy to point that out to me. The first guy was a really good older player in Edmonton who told me not to do that. Yeah, it's a really bad habit of mine held over from time before I got proper guidance. Guess it lingered on... I think I only do that when I get tired and probably flat-footed the rest of the game though, when the birdie went alittle past but not far enough that I couldn't smash it. Yeah, definitely slacky footwork.

    BMS, it'll be great if you could spot for me next week. Thanks!

    Cappy ... you do that on EVERY FLICK SERVE ... I didn't mention before, because I believed that that was part of your ingrained style of playing. But since it's out now, hehehehe, all bets are off.

    It's awkward-looking and really bad for your lower back. If you're going to go for shots like that, jump up and keep your torso and shoulders in-line. As it is right now, that return shot has steepness but lacks speed.

    I agree with the older player in Edmonton. Here's a alternative method you can try out. Stand back off the front service line by about one foott. Do NOT arch your back (abnormally) for flick serves. Jump up UP, not BACK ... and if the shuttle goes behind you, push off on your trailing foot AFTER your body weight shifts behind that foot, as you're moving back.

    But feel free to disagree. It's just a suggestion.

    -dave

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    a really painfull back injury about 7 weeks ago just after the stanford Tournament, I had played about 10 singles games in one day and between that and my job which involves heavy lifting i was in complete agony the next evening. I lay on my bavk for two days and on the third day after thinking " Well it's not getting any worse so it must be getting better " I suddenly sneezed and it sent this almighty @&@#@#@ spasm down my lower back. I SCREAMED and was in tears and my wife had to rush me to stanford ER where i waited for 4 hours to see someone, i could not sit and when i walked I was in so much pain. after a morphine injection, pain killers and muscle relaxers I felt better and then two days later went to get some physio which was great. They diagnosed it as either a trapped nerve or a pulled or swollen muscle in the lower back. They gave me proper stretching exercises and also exercises to strengthen the muscles in my lower back which they said people often neglect. They are hard to explain but i shall try. One was to lay on your back, squeeze your buttocks together and then raise one leg at a time, just an inch off the ground, but remember to keep breathing, then do it with the alternate leg, it's harder than you think. then after that, pull in your belly button, not too much, squeeze your buttocks as well, keep breathing and again do the same exercise. she said that just to practice pulling in the belly button as you were walking anywhere and keep breathing and this will strengthen your lower back.

    Good luck

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    freeheeler, did the doctor/nurse look funny at you when you tell them you got that from badminton?

    joking aside, glad to see you are getting better now...

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    I sometimes find it is easier not to mention badminton to a lot of americans, it just baffles them!!

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    Are you at 100% after 7 weeks, freeheeler?

    When I showed up at the office with crutches and hobbling on one leg after a sprained ankle, you should've seen the looks on my co-workers faces when I said "badminton" ... it's like WHATTTTT ????

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    Default I would say

    abot 90%. I had a few jokes at work about how dangerous badminton was, like, " at least 1 player dies every 2 minutes from that game etc etc

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    Hmm, I don't know about all these negative marketing will do for badminton At least more people knows about the game.

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    Heh! And yet, somehow I manage to get those flicks most of the time. I definitely need to take a look at how get to the flicks properly w/o doing the limbo.

    Originally posted by wood_22_chuck
    Cappy ... you do that on EVERY FLICK SERVE ... I didn't mention before, because I believed that that was part of your ingrained style of playing. But since it's out now, hehehehe, all bets are off.

    It's awkward-looking and really bad for your lower back. If you're going to go for shots like that, jump up and keep your torso and shoulders in-line. As it is right now, that return shot has steepness but lacks speed.

    I agree with the older player in Edmonton. Here's a alternative method you can try out. Stand back off the front service line by about one foott. Do NOT arch your back (abnormally) for flick serves. Jump up UP, not BACK ... and if the shuttle goes behind you, push off on your trailing foot AFTER your body weight shifts behind that foot, as you're moving back.

    But feel free to disagree. It's just a suggestion.

    -dave

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    * bump *

    Hey Cappy75, how's the back?

    Did you change anything (technique, style, warmup, etc) to minimize your back pain?

    Cheers!

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    Hey BMS,

    Thanks for asking! It's actually better... now that I play more *ahem* regularly. Doing alot more practice and drills than before, so maybe footwork improve and thus doing alot less "matrix-like" overhead shots.

    A friend visiting from Edmonton noticed that I lost some weight and also noticed that the arch on my lower back is more pronounced... she speculated that maybe I didn't have enough back support while sleeping/lying on the bed, so that could be a contributing factor to my back problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Break-My-String
    * bump *

    Hey Cappy75, how's the back?

    Did you change anything (technique, style, warmup, etc) to minimize your back pain?

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy75
    ...A friend visiting from Edmonton noticed that I lost some weight and also noticed that the arch on my lower back is more pronounced... she speculated that maybe I didn't have enough back support while sleeping/lying on the bed, so that could be a contributing factor to my back problems.
    Although I don't know too much about the spine, having a proper "S" shape is important for support & stability. In terms of your bed, back problems could arise from either too soft or too hard of a bed. I guess, if your problem persists or becomes chronic, make an appointment with the specialist.

    Cheers!

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    Heh! My bed is totally stiff... just slightly more comfy than sleeping on the floor. I think it's alright though... maybe just put a rolled up towel to support the gap between my lower back and the bed surface. A visit with a specialist is definitely in order if the problem persist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Break-My-String
    Although I don't know too much about the spine, having a proper "S" shape is important for support & stability. In terms of your bed, back problems could arise from either too soft or too hard of a bed. I guess, if your problem persists or becomes chronic, make an appointment with the specialist.

    Cheers!
    Last edited by cappy75; 06-26-2004 at 03:47 AM.

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    I also found out, sleeping with a pillow between my legs, it helps out with my lower back & knee problems, especially when I know I tend to sleep on my side.

    Cheers!

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