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    This weekend PBSI will hold simulation games in Solo, Central Java.

    Apparently (hopefully) Tommy is already fit, and he is going to play in the simulation. Meanwhile, the coaches prefer to play Ihsan Maulana rather than Jonatan Christie. It's a sign that Jonatan (and Riyanto Subagja as well) most likely will not be included in the main team?

    Ahsan/Hendra and Rian/Angga will be separated in this simulation. Ahsan to partner Angga, and Hendra to partner Rian. As for Hendra/Rian, if I'm not mistaken, they have played together as a pair in last year Sudirman Cup against China, so this will not be the first time for them.

    Here it is the line-up:

    Thomas Cup

    Team A vs Team B:
    Tommy Sugiarto vs Wisnu Yuli Prasetyo
    Markis Kido/Marcus Fernaldi Gideon vs Mohammad Ahsan/Angga Pratama
    Ihsan Maulana Mustofa vs Sony Dwi Kuncoro
    Hendra Setiawan/Rian Agung Saputro vs Berry Angriawan/Ricky Karanda Suwardi
    Simon Santoso vs Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka

    Uber Cup

    Team A vs Team B:
    Bellaetrix Manuputty vs Linda Wenifaneri
    Greysia Polii/Nitya Krishinda Maheswari vs Della Destiara Haris/Anggia Shitta Awanda
    Hanna Ramadini vs Aprilia Yuswandari
    Pia Zebadiah Bernadet/Rizki Amelia Pradipta vs Suci Rizki Andini/Tiara Rosalia Nuraidah
    Adriyanti Firdasari vs Maria Febe Kusumastuti

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    Thomas Cup simulation result:Team A will win.Uber Cup simulation result:Team A will win also.-Indra

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    This is the Thomas-Uber Cup simulation result:

    Uber Cup - Team A vs Team B 2-3

    Bellaetrix Manuputty vs Linda Wenifanetri 21-19, 21-19
    Greysia Polii/Nitya Krishinda Maheswari vs Anggia Shitta Awanda 22-20, 16-21,15-21
    Hanna Ramadini vs Aprilia Yuswandari 21-18, 15-21, 12-21
    Pia Zebadiah Bernadet/Rizki Amelia Pradipta vs Suci Rizki Andini/Tiara Rosalia Nuraidah 21-13, 21-17
    Adriyanti Firdasari vs Maria Febe Kusumastuti 21-15, 19-21, 14-21

    Thomas Cup - Team A vs Team B 4-1

    Tommy Sugiarto vs Wisnu Yuli Prasetyo 18-21, 21-12, 21-14
    Markis Kido/Marcus Fernaldi Gideon vs Mohammad Ahsan/Angga Pratama 21-13, 16-21, 13-21
    Ihsan Maulana Mustofa vs Sony Dwi Kuncoro 21-19, 21-18
    Hendra Setiawan/Rian Agung Saputro vs Berry Angriawan/Ricky Karanda Suwardi 21-14, 19-21, 21-19
    Simon Santoso vs Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka 21-15, 21-18

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    It's nice having Tommy back. Hope he will be fully recovered soon.

    In my opinion, the most surprising result of the day was that Ihsan won over Sony in straight sets. If a junior player would be selected, it should be him I think. However, in a event like Thomas Cup, I'm not sure if the coaches would choose a junior player. But, it will be very useful if the coaches have a strategy to put Simon Santoso as MS2 in some matches.

    As for men's doubles sector, definitely Ahsan/Hendra and Rian/Angga would be selected. And as for the third pair, I have a feeling that the coaches prefer Ricky/Berry rather than Markis Kido/Markus Fernaldi. Or perhaps Kido still would be selected because of his experience, but not with Markus Fernaldi. Let's see.
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    My prediction for INA squad after simulation:MS1. Tommy2. Simon3. Ihsan (for regeneration)4. Sony or Hayom (actually i prefer Sony, but is Sony fully recovered?)5. Hendra6. Ahsan7. Angga8. Rian9. Berry10. RickyUber:1. Lindaweny2. Bellaetrix3. Aprilia4. Firdasari5. Greysia6. Nitya7. Suci8. Tiara9. Anggia10. DellaPia/Rizki won against Suci/Tiara in simulation, but Pia/Rizki have poor H2H against TOP 10 players...Anggia/Della show improvement (beating Greysia/Nitya in simulation)

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    Hey guys , how come above results Ahsan not partner Hendra setiawan ?

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    In a matchup versus opponent, if Simon is MS2, Sony and/or Hayom can't be MS3 since Simon's ranking is the lowest among Sony, Hayom and Tommy.

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    Versus China, i think the best chance is for INA to pick up a point in MS and 2 in MD. Whoever is matched vs. DPY/WZM/THW/WS is key. Lin Dan and Chen Long definitely will win in MS3 and MS1.

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    The dilemma INA has now is where to put Simon just like CHN's decision on Lin Dan. Both players' ranking is far below their teammates except for very junior player.

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    if China and Indonesia both top their group they can only meet in the final.
    i wouldn't be too surprise if China field the old boys, FHY/CY as MD2, with tons of experience to spare.

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    if China and Indonesia both top their group they can only meet in the final.
    i wouldn't be too surprise if China field the old boys, FHY/CY as MD2, with tons of experience to spare.

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    FHF/CY? Angga/Rian or Hendra/Rian or Ahsan/Angga should take care of the pair just fine.

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    Kido/Fernaldi can beat FHF/CY no doubt.

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    FHF/CY? Angga/Rian or Hendra/Rian or Ahsan/Angga should take care of the pair just fine.
    Hendra/Rian that wouldn't happen as no way INA can drop HS/MA as MD1

    Kido/Fernaldi can beat FHF/CY no doubt.
    as for the other pairs, not sure if any of them played for the TC before?
    as i said, experience is the key.

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    Rian/Angga defeated FHF/CY in the last Sudirman Cup semifinal.

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    INA Thomas team should not too focus on CHN team, JPN-DEN-KOR are also tough opponents. In last decade, INA Thomas team had been eliminated by DEN (2004 semifinal), KOR (2008 semifinal), and JPN (2012 quarterfinal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLELY View Post
    INA Thomas team should not too focus on CHN team, JPN-DEN-KOR are also tough opponents. In last decade, INA Thomas team had been eliminated by DEN (2004 semifinal), KOR (2008 semifinal), and JPN (2012 quarterfinal).
    agree japan should be a problem since they don't have a good ms3. indon's doubles are still much stronger. against korea. ms1 tommy vs shon wan ho 50-50 ms2 sony vs lee dong kuen -60-40 ms3 simon vs lee hyunil 50-50 md ahsan/setia vs lyd/yoo 50-50 md2 angga suptra vs kim/kim 50-50 very hard n close . against den ms1 tommy vs jorgenson 50-50 ms2 sony vs vitinghus 60-40 ms3 simon vs axelson 60-40 md ahsan/setia vs bomo 55-45 md ang suptra vs mad/con 55-45 against mas ms1 tommy vs lcw 1-99 ms2 sony vs Darren 60-40 ms3 simon vs cwf 60-40 md1 ahsan/setia vs hoon/tan 60-40 md2 anggung suptra vs goh/lim 55-45

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    LHI is already retired. Can he play as MS3? Japan is a much tougher opponent with 1 formidable MD pair (Hiroyuki Endo / Kenichi Hayakawa), and 3 MS (Kento, Kenichi and Sasaki).

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