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    is there a date given when the decision will be made? any chance the new system will NOT be introduced?

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    For a different take on the matter, the new English National Badminton League (NBL) has adopted a 5x9point system.

    The new format includes innovations such as one 'Power Play' per side per match - this can be called by either side at any time. If the side choosing the 'Power Play' win the rally, they score two points, if they lose, their opponents score the usual one point.

    Also, there's no coaching between games. Instead, each side can call a 45s 'time out' at any point during the match (one 'time out' per side per match), when they can confer with coaches. This has interesting potential tactically.

    You can see the new system working here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7MPlLZdsMY

    (where, btw, you can watch Olga Konon at 1hr44m - a welcome return to competitive badminton)

    Difficult to see how 5x11 or 5x9 would work at club level, so maybe we're heading for multiple scoring systems (as exist in other sports e.g. cricket)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smautf View Post
    For a different take on the matter, the new English National Badminton League (NBL) has adopted a 5x9point system.

    The new format includes innovations such as one 'Power Play' per side per match - this can be called by either side at any time. If the side choosing the 'Power Play' win the rally, they score two points, if they lose, their opponents score the usual one point.

    Also, there's no coaching between games. Instead, each side can call a 45s 'time out' at any point during the match (one 'time out' per side per match), when they can confer with coaches. This has interesting potential tactically.

    You can see the new system working here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7MPlLZdsMY

    (where, btw, you can watch Olga Konon at 1hr44m - a welcome return to competitive badminton)

    Difficult to see how 5x11 or 5x9 would work at club level, so maybe we're heading for multiple scoring systems (as exist in other sports e.g. cricket)?

    smautf
    I watched several of the matches and was quite interesting on the different strategies that come into play with the last game options - although initially they did confuse me a bit. One match ended with a power play but the scoring did not go the full length, and left me scratching my head a bit.
    This is from their site:

    "If a tie-break at 2-games-all is required, the final game will be decided on either the first to five points or the first player to achieve a clear three point lead."

    I think this works very effectively in a team/club competitions, making for slight quicker match times and offering more strategy off court as well as actual play.

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    I just think after such a fantastic MD world championships final. Why would anyone want this new system? To save time? If that's the only reason it's a joke. No tension, constant games been given away, even more time outs. It's like making F1 7 mini races of 5 laps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhSearsTower View Post
    is there a date given when the decision will be made? any chance the new system will NOT be introduced?
    According to the BWF website, they are having their year-end meeting in Peru (as they just held a signing ceremony to present Peru with next year's World Jr Championships) that concludes on Friday. So hopefully soon BWF will make an announcement on how the trials went and what they feel the next step would be. (Usually takes about 3-4 weeks for AGM information to be released though).

    By the way, this was what was brought up during the May AGM with the reasons on why they wanted to change the scoring system.

    http://bwfbadminton.org/file.aspx?id=555962&dl=1
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    5 x 11 REVISED, possible 3 point set at 10-all or to 15. Intervals between games drop from 2 minutes to 1 minute. Testing period February-April 2015.

    http://bwfbadminton.org/news_item.aspx?id=89888

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    Bullsh** remains bullsh**, even if you put some candy on top...

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    either with setting to a maximum of 15 points or with a three-point decider if the score reaches 10-all.
    what does that mean? that 5 sets will not end on 11-10 but at 15-14? i would find that a major improvement as it was the biggest defect of the 5x11 system IMO

    what does 3point decider mean?

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    I think 3 point decider means 10-10 and then decide to play to thirteen. So the score theoretically could be as follows: 10-10, 10-11, 10-12, 11-12, 11-13

    On the other hand, it could mean the first to 12 points - best of three points.

    Oh dear. Bit confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhSearsTower View Post
    what does that mean? that 5 sets will not end on 11-10 but at 15-14? i would find that a major improvement as it was the biggest defect of the 5x11 system IMO

    what does 3 point decider mean?
    A: set 3 point

    10-10 choose set 3 point, then:
    13-10 over or,
    13-11 over or,
    13-12 over.

    B: to 15 point

    10-10 no choose set 3 point, then:
    12-10 over or,
    13-11 over or,
    14-12 over or,
    15-13 over or,
    15-14 over.
    Last edited by cxytdn; 11-27-2014 at 06:56 AM.

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