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    I pick argentina. because there is cure if european team didn't can win the world cup if it held at america

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    Thumbs up Third place will feel a lot better than fourth place

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    Today, Saturday 12-July-2014, Brazil plays the Netherlands for 3rd place.

    Link: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=...y-2403702.html

    I think the Netherlands can get 3rd place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    As I type, it is showing:
    * Brazil.........1.975 - 1.925...Germany
    * Argentina...2.100 - 1.800...Netherlands
    Looks like more people are expecting a Germany-Netherlands Final.

    My guess: A Brazil-Netherlands Final.
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    Your prediction was corrected but a day earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Today, Saturday 12-July-2014, Brazil plays the Netherlands for 3rd place.

    Link: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=...y-2403702.html

    I think the Netherlands can get 3rd place.
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    Trust your guess. I pick Brazil.

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    This is the worst Brazil team I ever watched since I started watching football in 1974 (the Beckenbauer - Cruyff era) - no offense (even before Nejmar was injured), defense sucks. Passes - off target, defense - kept making mistakes. Even the 1974 Brazil team was better.
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    Smile Third place will feel a lot better than fourth place

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    Trust your guess. I pick Brazil.
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    Unfortunately, Brazil came 4th.

    Saturday 12-July-2014 Match Result:
    Brazil 0-3 Netherlands.

    The Netherlands got 3rd place.
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    Dreadful indeed, no Plan B at all. Substitutions tell the whole story (throughout the tournament): Fernandinho for Luis Gustavo (same position), Hernanes for Paulinho (same position) and Hulk for Ramires (probably Hulk switched position with Oscar and Hernanes dropped back deeper so still no change). Where's Kaka' when you need him !

    But the starting eleven are still the ones that dominated last year's Confed Cup, although Kaka' was playing then be it as a substitute iirc ... They just completely underperformed, perhaps after all due to the WC pressure (although as explained before half the team hadn't had the best of club season's behind them to begin with)

    PSG must be very pleased they spent almost their entire transfer kitty on David Luiz (restricted due to UEFA punishment)
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    Sunday 13-July-2014 Final Match: Argentina-vs-Germany

    My guess: Germany 1-0 Argentina

    Why? Because both teams will want to play with care. And most Brazilians are cheering for Germany.
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    Argentina win at least by 2 goals.

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    Germany is dictating the pace but Argentina is playing really well defensively. The occasionally counter attack is dangerous.

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    An missed chance by ARG #9 and off side goal by #9 also. The tide should be turning to ARG favor.

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    Germany is fighting back, an excellent save by ARG goalie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
    Sunday 13-July-2014 Final Match: Argentina-vs-Germany

    My guess: Germany 1-0 Argentina

    Why? Because both teams will want to play with care. And most Brazilians are cheering for Germany.
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    Germany is fighting back, an excellent save by ARG goalie.
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    During the 2nd half of "extra-time", both teammates of Germany and Argentina were so tired. I thought we would have a 'penalty-shootout'. But finally just before the end of "extra-time", Germany scored.

    Well done Germany for winning their 4th FIFA World Cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Sunday 13-July-2014 Final Match: Argentina-vs-Germany

    My guess: Germany 1-0 Argentina

    Why? Because both teams will want to play with care. And most Brazilians are cheering for Germany.
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    Well done, see you in 2018.

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    Default The world at Germany's feet after World Cup triumph

    Germany deserve crown with a team effort full of flair and scoring prowess



    Published on Jul 15, 2014 8:58 AM



    • Manuel Neuer - voted goalie of the tournament - kept opponents at bay while Germany had eight players who created havoc with a total of 18 goals. The squad are young enough to go on to be a dominant force for many more years. -- PHOTO: REUTERS



      The Straits Times, Singapore

      By Marc Lim Sports Editor In Rio De Janeiro

      The World Cup final was 15 minutes away from heading towards a penalty shoot-out.

      There, on the pitch of Rio de Janeiro's iconic Estadio do Maracana, where so many epic battles had been won by greatness, Joachim Loew was looking for that something special.

      Germany and Argentina were still locked at 0-0 after a bruising 105-minute battle. He looked around, and in Mario Goetze saw not only his team's freshest pair of legs, but also something special.

      So he took the player aside as the teams trooped back onto the pitch and whispered: "Show the world that you are better than (Lionel) Messi and that you can decide the World Cup."

      It was a tall task for a 22-year-old World Cup rookie to steal the headlines in a final against an Argentina team led by four-time world player of the year Messi.

      Yet when Andre Schuerrle beat an otherwise excellent Javier Mascherano and floated a cross into the Argentina penalty area, his chance was there.

      Jumping to cushion the ball ever so delicately with his chest, his next move was in direct contrast to his first. Taking two steps to set himself up, he let fly with a ferocious left-footed volley to send the ball into the net - and 80 million Germans into ecstasy half the world away.

      On the Maracana pitch, his team-mates mobbed him as Mascherano sat on the ground, deflated, at the realisation that the dream was over.

      There were still seven minutes to play, but with tired legs and exhausted minds after their second consecutive extra-time match, the Cup was as good as gone.

      A last-minute Messi free kick, which went horribly wrong, merely confirmed the sentiments that Goetze's wonderful strike had been the match-winner.

      "It's an unbelievable feeling, I don't know how to describe it," said the man of the match.
      "I just took the shot and didn't know what was happening. For us, the dream has become reality. I'm very proud of the team and extremely happy about everything that has happened here in Brazil.

      "Every player in our team deserves praise and we're very proud to have won this trophy."

      It was perhaps fitting that the German win was carved out by two players born after the reunification of the country in 1990. It emphasised the point that to win the World Cup, you need a great team and, in Brazil, no one else came close to Die Mannschaft.

      They were the best passers of the ball, played the best flowing team football and had the greatest depth. Whether it was Goetze or Miroslav Klose in the starting line-up, whether it was a False Nine system or a more conventional line-up with a recognised striker, the Germans got the job done.

      They also scored the most goals. That eight German players contributed to their 18-goal tally, second only to the Netherlands with nine scorers, was a telling statistic.

      The over-reliance on one man has been one of Brazil 2014's underlying themes. Neymar for Brazil, Messi for Argentina and to a certain extent Arjen Robben for the Netherlands, all, ironically, contributed to their teams' downfall. Their individual brilliance and influence they had on their teams turned out to be a weak link as defences focused on them.

      Germany, on the other hand, did not have just one star. They had a star team. Six players, the most in the tournament, had two goals or more. Their top scorer Thomas Mueller scored just once in the four knockout matches, yet it did little to affect the team, with Goetze, Schuerrle, Klose, Toni Kroos and even defender Mats Hummels chipping in."We've always played good football and I believe that over this tournament, over seven matches, we've shown the best performances of any of the teams here in Brazil," said Loew.

      "The boys have also developed a team spirit which is unbelievable. They have fantastic technical capacity and they also have the willpower that's necessary to do what is necessary."

      Sunday's win was also the first time that a European team tasted victory on Latin American soil, after Uruguay 1930, Brazil 1950, Chile 1962, Mexico 1970, Argentina 1978 and Mexico 1986.

      Many believed that European teams could not perform on this continent. But with teams now equipped to set up elaborate in-tournament bases, as Germany did with Campo Bahia in Brazil's north-east, acclimatising to different weather conditions and environments is no longer an issue.

      Favourable conditions were also something Argentina enjoyed in Brazil. All throughout their campaign, despite being bitter football rivals of the hosts, Messi and company enjoyed wonderful support from their own fans who made the trek north. For Sunday's final, it was estimated that over 100,000 Argentinians were in Brazil, expecting to rub salt into the wounds of their arch-rivals, who could finish only fourth.

      But after an encouraging start highlighted by Gonzalo Higuain's glorious miss after a Kroos mistake put him clean through on goal and Messi dragging his second-half shot wide, La Albiceleste fizzled under the Maracana lights.

      Messi, who had started so brightly with his teasing runs in the opening exchanges, seemed to run out of steam after the first half. As captain and heir apparent to the throne of great players like Pele and Maradona who have won the World Cup, much was expected of him. But membership to this elite club will have to wait.

      On this Sunday, it was Goetze's time to shine. The image of the 22-year-old, winner's medal around his neck, staring into the Maracana sky, is a beautiful image to savour.
      An even better one is that of him, body suspended in the air, executing that winning shot. Brazil 2014 deserved better than to end in a shoot-out.

      A goal of pure brilliance was a fitting way to end one of the best World Cups in recent memory.

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      Reaping fruits of 10 years' labour

      SUNDAY'S triumph, Germany's fourth World Cup win but their first in 24 years, was the culmination of a project that started a decade ago.

      After a poor Euro 2000 campaign, German football association officials sat down with the clubs to devise a system which would put the emphasis on developing a generation of young, technically and tactically talented players.

      Clubs invested in academies and centres of excellence.

      And Sunday's result was the fruit of that collective labour.

      The starting XI against Argentina featured six of the "boys" who played in a 4-0 hammering of England in the 2009 Euro Under-21 final in Sweden.

      "We started this project 10 years ago and what has happened today is the result of many years' work, starting with Juergen Klinsmann," said coach Joachim Loew, who in 2004 as assistant to Klinsmann, sought to introduce a more passing, attacking style to Germany's play.

      "We've made constant progress, we believed in the project, we worked a lot and, if any group deserves it, it's this team."

      MARC LIM


      - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/spo....aZO0wJyH.dpuf

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    Default The ‘miracle boy’ who did better than Messi

    Gotze’s brilliant finish was the visible end product of the best coaching structure in the world. Photo: Getty Images


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    Published: 4:03 AM, July 15, 2014


    After all the focus this past month on the more established brilliance of Thomas Muller and Toni Kroos, the one slight surprise was that it should be Mario Gotze who applied such a perfectly executed finish to this World Cup.

    A surprise, perhaps, to the rest of the world but not really in Germany where Gotze, despite some recent difficulties, has long been regarded as the most exciting young talent from even their vast talent factory. Indeed, when Lars Ricken showed a group of English journalists around the Bundesliga academy back in 2010, it was the name “Mario Gotze” that we were repeatedly told to watch and follow.

    He had only just turned 18, but there was never even the slightest doubt that he would get his chance at Dortmund.

    It was to be Gotze’s breakthrough season, with Jurgen Klopp not hesitating in playing an 18-year-old through 41 senior games en route to the Bundesliga title.

    Klopp also did not hesitate to turn down a £30 million (S$63.7 million) offer the following summer when Arsene Wenger hoped to make him Cesc Fabregas’ replacement at Arsenal. Matthias Sammer, who was formerly the German FA’s technical director, then described Gotze as “one of the best talents that Germany’s ever had”.

    He is one of the first generation of young German players to fully benefit from an overhaul in academy structures in the early 2000s that ensure all Bundesliga clubs meet strict guidelines on facilities, the numbers and expertise of coaches as well as their ongoing financial commitment.

    It is no accident that the German system has produced not just a great team but far more quality on the bench than any other nation in Brazil. This was a squad flourishing without five injured midfielders — Lars and Sven Bender, Sami Khedira, Marco Reus and Christoph Kramer — who would walk into most other teams.

    It was also interesting in the post-match press conference to hear Low admit he had simply told Gotze before the second period of extra time to “show them that you are better than (Lionel) Messi and can decide the World Cup”.

    Perhaps Low was conscious of an interview earlier this year by Pep Guardiola, Gotze’s manager at Bayern Munich, who described Messi as on “another level”.
    Low, it would seem, does not share that assessment

    “Gotze is a miracle boy,” he said. “I told them before the match they’d have to give more than they ever have if they were to achieve something they’d never achieved. And they did that.”

    Miroslav Klose had been preferred as Germany’s main striker in the knockout phase even of this World Cup while, at club level, Gotze has not been an automatic selection for Bayern since leaving Dortmund last year.

    Even so, Gotze still finished the Bundesliga season with a better ratio for goals and assists than in any year of his career.

    “It wasn’t a simple year or tournament for me,” Gotze said last night. “I owe very much to my family, my girlfriend and close relatives who always believed in me. That is very important. It’s an unbelievable feeling. Indescribable. A dream became a reality.”

    Football matches are often decided on unexpected moments of great skill or luck.

    Argentina will rue the misses by Gonzalo Higuain and Messi. Yet it would be misplaced to regard this result as even remotely freakish. Gotze’s brilliant finish was simply the visible end product of the best coaching structure in the world.

    Germany now have a chance to dominate international football for the foreseeable future.

    As for the present, they are simply the most deserving possible world champions. Gotze was also the most appropriate of match-winners.


    Jeremy Wilson is a journalist with The Daily Telegraph.

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