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03-19-2004, 05:24 AM #1
badminton vs basketball shoes
Could anybody tell me what is the advantage of using badminton shoes over basketball shoes? The only one I can think of is they are somewhat lighter.
In my opinion basketball shoes (middle to high end) are better designed, both aesthetically and functionally. Bball shoes have better cushioning, better stability, better ankle support (mid-high cuts), very good traction, and better looks (that one's subjective, or maybe you don't even care). I know some gyms require gum soles, but where I play they don't. And Bball shoes don't mark gym floors anyway.
And don't say that court shoes are better for sideway movement and Bball shoes are better for forward/backward movement, like many people I talk to. Moving sideways is vital when playing D. And I feel much safer moving sideways in my Bball shoes about rolling my ankles.
03-19-2004, 07:52 AM #2
seems to be a fair point, altho i do think altho you favour the ankle support, they may actually be restrictive for some players.. but looking at the movement basketballers do in comparison with badmnitoners i'd say they needed similar footwear.. the extra ankle support is probably necessary when they come down from dunking... this doesn't happen as often in baddy - but they still jump just as high for the jump smashes... the extra support could also be due to basketballers being physically bigger than most baddy players hence the need to protect the joints under stress...
03-19-2004, 11:08 AM #3
Its a matter of choice but good shoe is vital if you play ''seriously''.
It is true to say that Basketball shoes have more cushioning but sometimes too much fancy cushioning is not what we want. Alot of good badminton/court shoes (asic, yonex, Mizuno...) have some cushioning+ impact absorption where I don't find in any Nike or Basketball shoes you can use to play badminton. An example of an impact absorber is Mizuno wave technology, I tried it and it really works.
Also, basketball shoes tend to be poor in ventilation and are generally heavy. I find those criteria very important when it comes to Badminton. Most of basketball shoes are high and it can be very dangerous for the ankle. I dont agree when you say that Basketball shoes have better traction, stability and ankle support. Badminton/court shoes are supposed to give better traction and stability, thats where they excel thats why they are there for. I don't think I will move faster with basketball shoes.
Bottom line is when you play with basketball shoes it is like gambling with your feet. I have many friend who keep rolling their ankle with other type of shoes than court/badminton shoes: skateboard, basketball, runnign shoes...
Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying you can't have ankle injury with court shoes. Some people seem to roll their ankle as a hobby but you have higher chance to get ankle problem with other type of shoes.
03-19-2004, 12:53 PM #4
Personally, I believe different shoes are designed for different sports (especially high end models). For recreational play, it might not be a major impact, as we don't have too much aggressive moves. However, during intensive rallies, the problem might build up little by little, as well as increasing the chance of injury.
1. Basketball usually have thicker soles. This is good for basketball, as there are a lot of high jumps in this sport, such as dunking, rebounding, blocking, defense, even just simple jump shots.
2. In badminton, I believe the "twist" and balance are the most important issue, but high jump is more like the secondary. The bottom should not be too sick, as I saw several ppl sprain their ankle or knee due to off balance movements. The worst case i see, was this guy's basketball shoes got caught between floor pieces, and fell hard on his knee. It's been 2-3 months, and I did not see him again in club.
3. If you don't have many choices for badminton shoes, u might consider to purchase a pair of good volleyball shoes from local sports store.
03-19-2004, 02:52 PM #5
In addition to the factors that have already been discussed (ankle support, ventilation, weight, sole thickness, etc.), another issue is cost. Comparing hi-end bball shoes to high end baddy shoes, your typical Nike Air-Max / Shox can easily cost Cdn$200+, whereas a pair of Yonex SHB-89 is only in the Cdn$130 range at most. The bball shoes are probably more durable, but badminton puts a lot of stress on the shoes with frequent directional changes, so the bball shoes might wear out just as fast under those conditions.
At the end of the day, the deciding factor for me are still weight and sole thickness. When I'm playing baddy, I wanna be light on my feet, and I wanna feel the floor underneath my feet when I move around on the court.
03-19-2004, 11:28 PM #6
But are badminton shoes designed for gym floors or the mats?
So far..my cross trainers are not really restricting me. The grip isn't that good, but I think it has more to do with the gym floor. I've seen advanced players in my club wipe their shoes with their hand before each serve just to get a better grip.
Luckily I haven't any injuries so far.
03-22-2004, 01:46 AM #7
Thanks for all the explanations, it does clear up things for me a lot
Brave_Turtle, your friends playing with skateboarding and running shoes are just plain stupid (just the shoe thing, no offense to them). i'm drawing comparison between Bball and baddy shoes just because they have similar functions.
TheGr8One, I wouldn't use cross-trainers for badminton either...I tried that before and the bottom of the shoe just basically detached from the rest of the shoe...lucky there's no injury but I've seen some other cross-trainers do that in badminton
Maybe my playing style is weird, but sometimes when I brake hard in my court shoes I feel like my foot's going to rip my shoes apart or maybe roll my ankle, and I feels so much safer in Bball shoes
BUt one thing I'm definitely sure is the sole thickness of Bball shoes does not jepordize its stability at all, the thickness (for cushioning) give them even more design options for stability
So i am convinced that badminton shoes can be jsut as good as Bball shoes if not better...I guess it all come down to personal feel, kinda like some people prefer head-heavy racket and some balanced racket. I'll test some of the points you guys pointed out, but I'll take a few extra grams if it gives me a safe feeling. I want my mind on the game instead of my feet.
Maybe you guys could try playing with basketball shoes, you just might like the feeling
02-15-2005, 01:27 AM #8Originally Posted by Traum
...like...right now...i'm planning to get a pair of the SHB50's just to see the difference badminton shoes make for me compared to regular running shoes...but if those features in the 89 and 98 really make that big of a difference in the shoe's lifespan...then i don't mind paying the extra as long as it keeps me from having to buy a new pair of shoes every 6 months or something...
02-15-2005, 02:06 AM #9Originally Posted by Super~ME!
02-15-2005, 02:14 AM #10Originally Posted by CanuckBur
02-15-2005, 03:33 AM #11Originally Posted by Super~ME!
02-15-2005, 01:55 PM #12
I've always had the same question in mind. Although I can't say I've worn Yonex shoes(although my doubles partner swears by them), I've tried volleyball and tennis shoes and ended with basketballl shoes( the Nike Hurrache 2k4s ). I agree that the badminton shoes or shoes designed in that sort of nature offer more freedom of movement, but along with the movement, there comes the exposure of injury to the ankles. With basketball shoes (and more particularly, mine..the 2k4s), the ankle support is good..not too tight and just enough for mad dashes to the net and fast leaps to the back. The most important aspect is the closeness of the feet to the floor. Average basketball shoes tend to create a larger buffer between feet and floor, therefore, the reaction time is delayed and you know how important that is for badminton. With higher end bball shoes, especially when they are on closeout provide good cushion just where you need it (in the front ) and excellent tread that lasts. The only bad part is that sometimes the traction is too good and it prohibts you from sliding. My partner who uses Yonex tends to lose traction pretty quickly compared to me. In the end, it just matters what sort of player you are and how you use your legs and feet. For me, the Hurraches (and I'm not endorsing anyone, I just find that Nikes fit my feet perfectly) look cool and play very well compared to all the shoes I've used before.
By the way, what is the weight of the shb98? not all bball shoes are heavy, the hurraches are only 13 ounces (size 11).
02-16-2005, 01:20 AM #13Originally Posted by CanuckBur
02-16-2005, 07:37 PM #14Originally Posted by Super~ME!
I am very happy with the shb89. At first, I was very careful that I don't twist my ankle with a pair of new shoes. Coincidencely, I was focusing on my footworks at the time. Since I improve on my footworks, I don't get ankle injury anymore. But, I am still very careful when I get very tire. This is when it is easy for me to twist my ankle. Hope it helps.
02-19-2005, 03:00 AM #15Originally Posted by CanuckBur
...however, i was kinda disapppointed by the power cushion...like...the shoe felt really flat and like... really close to the ground...but i couldn't really feel any bounce or stuff in em...like...despite the nice fitting feeling in the shoes, they felt pretty "hard" and like stiff...but aside from that, they looked nice and felt pretty good to have on...maybe i'll need to actually play with em to feel the significant difference they make
02-19-2005, 11:41 AM #16
Yes, you need to do that to gauge the performance of the shoes. It doesn't help you much to walk around the store with those shoes on. Maybe do a little lunges and hopping around might help, just disregard the crazy look on the sales person's face.
[QUOTE=Super~MEmaybe i'll need to actually play with em to feel the significant difference they make[/QUOTE]
03-14-2005, 05:13 AM #17
it takes me about 30 mins to decide whether to get a particular pair of shoes or not. Wearing em' for 5 mins won't do much, but wearing them for a good 30 mins will help you feel if the shoes are right for you. any weird bumps or "imperfections" in the shoes become magnified after the first 15 mins.
I also ask permission if i can do jumping jacks and lunges while wearing the shoes inside the store more often than not, they allow me (kudos to Mizuno in eastwood and Badminton Hub in makati) to do so.
one thing I don't like about "high-end" badminton shoes (YY shb-98, Mizuno Wave smash) is that they're too "low-profile" like racing tires. Sure they offer excellent grip and feel, but you kinda sacrifice some of the cushioning comfort. I guess basketball shoes are the same. Some of the more expensive bball shoes I've bought were low-profiled compared to the cheaper ones.
hmmm.. i hope nike can come up with a slim-type zoom air cushioning for indoor court shoes.
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