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    Any recommendations on how to string Voltric Z Force 2? I know I should have thought of this earlier but was looking for what people think?

    What I have been doing was on my right side, the grommet strip mains on head 6 and 7, 8 and 9 are under on the grommet strip and 10 and 11 are up on the grommet strip and left side it is oppisite, 6 and 7, 8 and 9 are over and 10 and 11 is under. My cross starts on left side over so when I get to cross 15 as it comes out on right side it is under the grommet strip, as cross 16 goes in under the mains on outside of frame it starts weaving up creating a hard weave. My thought is with a hard weave the strings will keep straight, having a tighter string plane on top. I kinda believe this is just a guess but it also keeps the stringing plane more uniform.
    This pic is Pink Mains, Red Crosses. From left to right, this is a pic of main 11-10 up, 9-8 and 7-6 down. Cross 16 going through main 11-10 is under, crosses 19 going through main 9-8 and cross 21 going through main 7-6 are on top.
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    This pic is main 9-8 which are under and cross 19 on top, but as it is woven through it goes under main 8 creating a hard weave with more friction and the cross staying tighter and straighterName:  VTZF22.jpg
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    Just looking for feedback!!!
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    main = cross or cross +2 lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by kakinami View Post
    Any recommendations on how to string Voltric Z Force 2? I know I should have thought of this earlier but was looking for what people think?

    What I have been doing was on my right side, the grommet strip mains on head 6 and 7, 8 and 9 are under on the grommet strip and 10 and 11 are up on the grommet strip and left side it is oppisite, 6 and 7, 8 and 9 are over and 10 and 11 is under. My cross starts on left side over so when I get to cross 15 as it comes out on right side it is under the grommet strip, as cross 16 goes in under the mains on outside of frame it starts weaving up creating a hard weave. My thought is with a hard weave the strings will keep straight, having a tighter string plane on top. I kinda believe this is just a guess but it also keeps the stringing plane more uniform.
    This pic is Pink Mains, Red Crosses. From left to right, this is a pic of main 11-10 up, 9-8 and 7-6 down. Cross 16 going through main 11-10 is under, crosses 19 going through main 9-8 and cross 21 going through main 7-6 are on top.
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    This pic is main 9-8 which are under and cross 19 on top, but as it is woven through it goes under main 8 creating a hard weave with more friction and the cross staying tighter and straighterName:  VTZF22.jpg
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    Just looking for feedback!!!
    Thanks!!!

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    That was kinda of hard to understand, but I'll attempt to answer this.

    I'm guessing what you're trying to say is that the cross strings are twisting while you're pulling them through due to the mains in the way? If that's the case, in regards to the second picture where there is a single cross hole adjacent to a main, you shouldn't have a problem because there's a separator for the VTZF2 that makes one string sit above and one string below so they won't touch and it won't create friction and twisting.

    Another method is you can try to use the string mover (awl in your case ) and move the main string (if its a blocked shared hole) and pull all the cross string through so there will be less friction on the mains and crosses whilst you're pulling the cross through. This reduces tangling and twisting, but you can't do the 1 over technique and will need to hard weave the cross. I only do this when there is friction between the main and cross that causes twisting. This can work with both shared and single grommets.

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    Another way to avoid twisting is to pull the string through the racket in two stages. You can still use one-ahead, too.

    For example, put the string through A16 on one side, weave it, pull all the slack through (letting go of the loose end), and then go through A16 on the other side.

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    There is no problem stringing. My question is if you understand hard weave and soft weave, would you go with a hard weave to create a little friction to prevent tension loss or go with a soft weave to have a softer forgiving string plane.

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    There is no problem stringing. My question is if you understand hard weave and soft weave, would you go with a hard weave to create a little friction to prevent tension loss or go with a soft weave to have a softer forgiving string plane. If that makes any sense. Just putting it out there fir the technical stringer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    Another way to avoid twisting is to pull the string through the racket in two stages. You can still use one-ahead, too.

    For example, put the string through A16 on one side, weave it, pull all the slack through (letting go of the loose end), and then go through A16 on the other side.
    Marky Mark! Do you think I would have a problem stringing a racket and have twisting? It is a technical question debating hard weave and soft weave =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakinami View Post
    There is no problem stringing. My question is if you understand hard weave and soft weave, would you go with a hard weave to create a little friction to prevent tension loss or go with a soft weave to have a softer forgiving string plane. If that makes any sense. Just putting it out there fir the technical stringer.
    Hard-weave all the way; "forgiving" just means "soft" to my mind.

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    Sorry to interject here with no answers for the OP, but normally on rackets I always weave 1 ahead method so I always get a soft weave. Are you guys saying there are advantages to doing hard weave?? If so whats the deal?or just for z force 2. I thought when the strings are all pulled there will be no extra/less friction on either method? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigandy View Post
    Sorry to interject here with no answers for the OP, but normally on rackets I always weave 1 ahead method so I always get a soft weave. Are you guys saying there are advantages to doing hard weave?? If so whats the deal?or just for z force 2. I thought when the strings are all pulled there will be no extra/less friction on either method? thanks
    Because there is a grommet strip where your main and crosses are seperated my question was when stringing through the grommet strip do you make your cross a hard weave, meaning if your main is on bottom of grommet strip do you go under on your cross, more friction, or soft weave, main on bottom you go up on your cross, less friction on cross. Does it make sense?

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    Yep sorry didn't read it well enough, I see exactly what you mean. It will cause more friction I suppose but, is it not specifically designed to be done the soft way?
    I haven't tried it both ways but I am assuming the soft weave is the way to go. Doing the soft weave way IMO will obviously leave the outer rim of the string bed less tight and give you increased liveliness over a regular grommet pattern and surely a lot more lively than a hard weave leaving the outer rim of bed super stiff. But I would need to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craigandy View Post
    Yep sorry didn't read it well enough, I see exactly what you mean. It will cause more friction I suppose but, is it not specifically designed to be done the soft way?
    I haven't tried it both ways but I am assuming the soft weave is the way to go. Doing the soft weave way IMO will obviously leave the outer rim of the string bed less tight and give you increased liveliness over a regular grommet pattern and surely a lot more lively than a hard weave leaving the outer rim of bed super stiff. But I would need to try it.
    Thanks! That was the feedback I was looking for!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakinami View Post
    Thanks! That was the feedback I was looking for!!!!
    Just to add I am coming from a place where tension loss is almost a non issue for me personally due to my frequency of snappage! after the initial 24hr drop(which I can adjust for when stringing) I do not observe much before they snap. So I would take the increased bang any day of the week. But maybe different for less frequent snappers.

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