Is michael spencer smith a professional?

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  1. charliebadders

    charliebadders Regular Member

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    Very confused by him as on badminton england he is ranked second but loses mostly in first or second round of silvers? How does if have such a high ranking? But with a player grading of D most england player have A.
     
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    Looked at bwf, he has done 16 international tournaments winning 2 of 18matches.... Is he one of England's best or does he just pay to play all over the world to get a high ranking?
     
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    Well yeah, as you can see he has gained his national ranking by travelling to internationals and getting beat in the first round and he has not won even a silver in England on this current rank year. So there is no question that his ranking is artificial with regards to level.
     
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    Thanks. Wow someone must have a lot of money if they can play 16 international matches a year! I find the system very funny, if you compete in 6 silver events and lose first round every match you would still get a high ranking of around 150.
     
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    Just shows you how poor the participation amounts are if that(6 silver events first rounds) gets you a high ranking. More a badminton development problem than a poor ranking system.
     
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    Another Matthew Fogarty or Alistair Casey.:)
     
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    If I had the tine and resources, I wouldn't mind trying it out ;)
     
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    Good point craigandy. I think the grading system has worked well and shows a players ability more than the rank of the player. I don't know if an increase in numbers of tournaments or increase of tournaments in central locations will help. Attempted to play a bronze last year about 80 people applied for 32 places. Yet if you go to the extreme north, south, east west they will struggle to reach 16 competitors for 64 group tournaments. What happened to the bonanzas, more casual tournaments are needed!
     
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    Is "the tine" a really good coach or something?:p
     
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    Time:)

    An increasingly precious commodity
     
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    Probably would then judging by your numbers.
    At the end of the day the best incentive would always be money. At least the opportunity to win prize money that would at least cover travel and accommodation. It can't be that hard to achieve.
     
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    Winnings of £300 for bronze, £600 for silver and £1200 for gold split between all disciplines would not evening cover the travel costs in most cases. Unfortunately more funding won't arrive unless the GB nations perform well in world champs+ Olympics
     
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    The answer is for tournaments to be sponsored and for them to pay it like every other sport that has prize money.
     
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    Tine Baun, obviously
     

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