Do you find Victor's Racket Response Indicator (RRI) to be accurate?

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  1. SSSSNT

    SSSSNT Regular Member

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    For example, according to the RRI, Bravesword 11 is supposed to be much more flexible than Bravesword 12 despite it being rated as stiffer. If this is true, then surely it would change a lot about the suitability of the racket.

    If anyone has experience with Victor rackets, do you find the RRI to be accurate?
     
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    The RRI takes into account both the shaft stiffness and the balance point, so the BS11 shaft may feel stiffer than BS12 on simple bending with the hand. But on playing, the higher bp of the 11 will bend the shaft more.

    Also you can't compare the RRI of different series (eg. MX90 vs TK9000) , only within the models of a series (eg. BS11 vs BS12).
     
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    That is the technical explanation but have anyone tested how accurate their RRI claim is?

    I didn't know that. What is the reason for that?
     
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    Own both TK-9ooo n 6ooo in 4u, can safely say Victor's RRI is close to how the rackets feel on courts.
     
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    Victor has categorized its rackets under three ranges: Speed, Power, n All-around. Depending on its range, a racket is designed with unique features (for some, with slightly diff materials) which pertains to the purpose of its categorization. Hence, two rackets frm two diff ranges, with the same stiffness, balance n RRI ratings, may most likely feel n play differently.
     
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    The RRI definitely works. I quite rather like it. Especially useful for comparing stuff within their respective categories.
     
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    Thanks all. Very helpful infos!

    I just find it strange how BS 11 having stiff shaft even balance could be much more flex in RRI than BS 12 which has medium shaft even balance. Makes no logical sense to me.
     
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    It does when you factor in that the 11 has both a longer shaft and heavier head weight than the 12. Makes it easier to whip and flex in play.
     
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    Ah I see. The longer shaft explains a lot. They should really put that in the description.
     
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    I suppose so. But if you put their official pictures of the full length of the racket side by side in an A/B comparison it is obvious. To me at least
     
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    Anyways, this is a great move by Victor. I hope other Racket manufacturers follow suit.
     
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    Actually I much prefer having both RRI and the placement on the matrix. Much better than just the 1-5 of 5 for stiffness and 1-5 of 5 for head heaviness.

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    I spent ages looking for this info yesterday... Thanks!

    I'm considering a LHI but not sure about the rri. I did like how the BS10 handled with its long shaft, hopefully LHI is the same dimensions.

    Shame they can't compare across series
     
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    AFAIK the 08, 09, 10, 11 and LHI are all the same dimensions.
     
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    Still trying to get my head around this RRI thing..... *confused*

    I bet for newbies, they could mistakenly purchased flexibe RRI which in fact the racket might turn out to be stiff.
     
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    I believe there's a new article on the victor website where they describe what the RRI is for quite clearly. The article has to do with their 3 types of rackets.
     
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    Not exactly. 10, 11 and LHI are the same with the thinner frame profile and shaft.

    Duckfeet, the 10 is similar to the LHI but slightly headlighter, which makes the 10 feel a fraction more stiff. I personally prefer the LHI and 11 which has a touch more weight in the head but still even balanced.

    SSSSNT, don't forget there is more than 1 version of BS11. The one currently sold in TW is much more flexible than the ones sold in China/Europe. IIRC, the TW version is 2/5 stiffness and the one from China/Europe is 4/5.
     
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    I thought they already standardised the TW versions to be 4/5 stiffness already? Came with the 2nd gen BS11
     
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    Not 100% sure, but I bought another one 2 months ago from HK which was 4/5. I asked Eric (RKEP) in TW at the time and he told me he could only get the 2/5 stiffness in TW.

    I believe the very first BS11s from TW were very stiff (possibly 5/5) but at some point they lowered it.
     
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    Well, I can tell you it's bang-on as far as the TK6000 and TK9000 go, but that's about it:D.
     

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