Just thought I'd share how I do my tie off knots and also a reference for those who just started stringing and want to know what a proper knot should look like. Tie off knots I do are called Toshi knots. Starting knots are a Toshi Knot + a special wrap around
Here's a link to the Toshi http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/sh...que-and-knot?p=2215309&viewfull=1#post2215309 Since I learned this knot it's the only one I need, holds great even as a starting knot.
I might try the Toshi knot and then do a Parnell knot next to it unless Mark A beats me to it. But I really like my set up with a starting knot + 3 Parnell knots. I'm biased towards smaller knots Still good to have a larger knot in your repertoire though.
I'll probably give this knot a try too. I normally use Parnell knots for tie offs. Mods can we make a sticky of this thread and aggregate ALL knots in one handy place. Let me kick it off with the ones I've learned from all you experts. Pro/Parnell Knot: Starting knot used by @Mark A & @johnlowe88: My original starting knot (I add one more loop):
I gave the Toshi a go, but I must have cocked it up... it needs diagramming, really. In the meantime, I added another loop to my double-Parnell, and it worked: But you pretty much need three hands for it - three loops, all needing tightening in order.
If even you cocked it up, that makes me feel better. I was trying to use it from my very first stringing job, and I just couldn't get it right. While Alan explains it carefully in his video, it's just too hard for me to tell exactly what's going on. It needs a diagram.
Mind video'ing this for us Mark A? I use the parnell too however it doesn't look that "bulky" compared to you. :crying: This video from youtube I believe is someone doing the Toshi but doesn't do it as nicely as AK does. It is a lot easier to follow too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85mXmT04o-M
Amazingly, that video made the Toshi absolutely clear... but I still prefer mine. Mine is a Parnell through a Parnell through a Parnell, so a normal Parnell will look like a grain of sand in comparison. I've no way of videoing it, but I can do a step-by-step picture guide next time I send a racket through.
I could video and talk and describe how I do it, the problem is I first need to set up the camera and it will be all good.
OK - it's taken me a fair few tries to nail this one, but I think I'm going to run with it for a while. It's just as big as mine, but easier to get tighter because it's not pulling onto mulitple loops. Weirdly, I can hear Alan's "one loop... two loops..." in my head every time.
I'm going to try this again based on your recommendation. Even if it means not being able to get Alan's soothing voice out my head. Will you be using it for tie-off knots as well, or just for the cross starting knot?
It's definitely a good tie-off, but it might not be big enough for a starter. I'm one-pieceing all my stuff lately, so the starter test will have to wait. This is by far the better angle for videoing: [video=youtube;85mXmT04o-M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85mXmT04o-M[/video]