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Thread: No Chinese, No Interview
05-11-2004, 09:44 AM #35Originally Posted by wwcbro
I support Liverpool, so I don't like him either.
05-11-2004, 10:09 AM #36
Please stick to the subject, guys.
05-11-2004, 10:30 AM #37
Chinese Players Getting FriendlierOriginally Posted by Brave_Turtle
Gao Ling is another favourite. She is considered thick face and will laugh crazily while interacting and answering questions from reporters.
They're naturally friendly, as a celebrity will be. But the restrictions of not talking from the coach is one thing that may have caused the stir.
05-11-2004, 10:43 AM #38Originally Posted by yanpok
Originally Posted by yanpok
Well that's the answer we'd like to hear from Li Yongbo ("I don't speak English, would be great if there's someone who can translate"). He didn't tell the reporters that he doesn't speak good English (which is rather strange, since his very international since the old days as great player). Instead he will refuse and said no Chinese, no interview.
Sometimes when some reporters ask their chinese reporters fellow to translate, Li Yongbo still a bit hesitant. Only until Lindsay firmly arranges a press conference full with chinese translator then Li was cornered and can't do anything but answer the question.
Li seems hesitant to dispatch information regarding the chinese badminton. He also prevents the players to answer questions from reporters prior to his approval.
05-11-2004, 11:54 AM #39Originally Posted by protomedea
Have you been in France? Try to talk to them in English, you will see what happen. or Will you speak with them in Franch?
Why is English a preferred language?WHY?WHY?
From what you have said above, so everybody in the World must learn English.Nobody needs to respect his/her own country anymore.
DO you know that Olympics provides translators to the reporters and the sport players?
Remember, If you do not learn English well enough, You cannot express yourself well enough by using it. I believe that everybody should use his/her mother language to express.
05-11-2004, 12:02 PM #40Originally Posted by yanpok
05-11-2004, 12:54 PM #41Originally Posted by yanpok
05-11-2004, 01:16 PM #42Originally Posted by tama-aki
On the other hand, is not only Chinese officials that do not dispatch information. To my knowledge, Indonesian players are also briefed on what can become public before the tournaments.
I still don't understand why is such a big problem with his refusal to grant interviews in English. Don't know if that is arrogance but won't try to assume anything. The only thing I regret is my ignorance in Chinese language. Should have taken the time to learn it when I could so I would read all the information available on the Chinese badminton sites.
05-11-2004, 01:22 PM #43Originally Posted by Syaoran_Style
French was a compulsory language during my secondary school years which was long loooong time ago. One of the teachers I had (he was a French national) mentioned that if you addressed in English to French people they would just simply ignore you - even if they know you were a tourist. Well, I don't really know about France as I only stayed at the airport for a few hours once. In some other European countries, the people used to turn thier backs when you address to them in a foreign language.
05-11-2004, 01:22 PM #44
i agree with Viver on this one. if LiYB is not comfortable with English, he has the right to refuse interviews in English. HOWEVER, perhaps the misunderstanding comes in how he communicated that. perhaps a more polite and diplomatic manner will go down better for the reporters, it sounded like LiYB rudely refused the interviews. at least it came across that way from teh reports...
05-11-2004, 01:30 PM #45Originally Posted by yanpok
Hi Yanpok, I speak 4 languages, with one almost dying because hardly using it again these days. Why English a preffered language? Not really preferred, it just happened the British have more colonized areas in the world compared to other countries with different language.
I found English rather hard to pronounce or learn compared to Indonesian. It seems to be systematic, but there are a lot of irregularities and inconsistencies. When I learnt Japanese, it's more complex but pronunciation is constant. But hey, there HAS TO BE one language so we can communicate. Chinese may have replaced English if they have conquered more places in the world.
And wait, isn't the Chinese around the world are also encouraged to learn the standard Chinese? Have you encountered communication breakdown among chinese speaking different dialects (e.g. Taiwanese vs Hong Kongers)? Do you think these people should stick to their dialects and use translator everywhere they go in China?
Can you imagine if people in Indonesia with 350 different local dialects can't communicate to each other? That's why we have Indonesian (malay). How about billions of people around the world?
Everyone in the world needs to learn English? It's their choice, but if he intends only to communicate to people speaking their language, secluding himself from the rest of the world, not interested in other's culture or what's going on around the world etc etc, then don't. If you feel your language has higher rank than English and you have an extreme nationalism, don't learn English.
I still do respect my country. I speak my mother tongue language with my family, friends, for my work but what happened if I don't speak English? I couldn't find a friend here to play badminton. How do I speak to friends from China, Vietnam, Africa or Belgium? I don't care if it's French, English, Chinese, Japanese or Arabic should be the international language, whatever it is I will learn it.
There's always translators around you can use, of course. But how far or how willing are you going to use them? What about for private issues? you definitely won't use a translator when you are making out with someone, will you? And how about where there's no translator mastering a particular language, it may be difficult to find a translator who master Chinese and Zulu language.
I believe people should be allowed to use their mother tongue and be proud of it and use it appropriately, but not secluding themselves completely from the world.
05-11-2004, 01:36 PM #46Originally Posted by viver
anyway, we all disgressed. let's get back to the topic!
05-11-2004, 01:44 PM #47Originally Posted by viver
05-11-2004, 05:07 PM #48Originally Posted by protomedea
 Why don't we all go out and learn Esperanto for laughs? 
 No I didn't make that language up, if you really want to know what it is and why I used it as an example, google it.
05-11-2004, 07:45 PM #49
" No Chinese no interview".
Sounds rude and brusque in common English but OK in Chinese or Japanese.
Th e trouble is that many Asians tend to do "direct translations" when using
English as a second language.So if this can create discord better to avoid.
Difficult I'm sure if you only speak English.(Arrogant?)
Perhaps better to leave translation to pros.
The whole Atomic bomb incident in ww2 Japan was caused by mistranslation of a key word from Japanese,surrender or sth.
I think it is quite plain where many people have already offered many explanations.More worrying is the trend of some suspicious characters who are out to create discord in other people's camps.I think that is the last thing desired as it assumes we were born yesterday, besides that is why so
mush friction is caused in World badminton site and references to unruly conduct of some people.I think it is better to criticise owm shortcomings first,
one will notice that most people in this forum are trying to mend fences not create discord in other people's camps.
05-11-2004, 09:16 PM #50Originally Posted by Pecheur
Let me take a step back - my reply to Yanpok was to show my disagreement to what he thought was 'disrespectful' to China. Exercising such gesture will only bring complaints which will in turn create a worse image of himself and the team. He was asked nicely anyway, right? I also don't think that the reporter feels his language is far more superior than Chinese.
One last thing, and this might as well be a question to everybody - does any other country have such problem when confronted by reporter who speaks only English?
I almost forget - I do agree that everybody should have the right to speak in whatever language he/she feels comfortable in. Doh...I hope I made myself clear this time
Last edited by protomedea; 05-11-2004 at 09:25 PM.
05-11-2004, 10:01 PM #51
One of my experiences whilst travelling around Europe was meeting some girls from Israel as fellow back packers.
One of them said "People in other countries don't speak English, but English is the international language".
It left a very profound impression me, even now so with Protomedea's view.
People have different talents, strengths and weaknesses and this is reflected in all skills. Language ability is no exception.
The fact that language ability come easily to Protomedea does not mean Li Yong Bo has those abilities either! That is even with english being an 'international language'.
Therefore, I think it is entirely reasonable for Li Yong Bo to refuse an interview in a language he probably doesn't understand much of. I would do the same!
Most of all, I think Bbn has got it completley right. Direct translations from chinese to english can sound very rude especially if the speaker (I assume Li Yong Bo replied in english) does not know how to use the right tones (for english).
One of my experiences in HK was asking the local cantonese speakers translations to english for certain words (me being the learner).
They would reply (in english) "don't ask me!". In the tone they used, I initially interpreted as being quite rude. After a while, I realised this was a direct translation from the chinese equivalent. However, the chinese equivalent of "don't ask me" in normal conversation doesn't sound rude at all.
BTW, I do try to speak french in France - but give me a phrasebook first please!
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